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Tema: Megalopolis (Francis Ford Coppola, 2024)

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    La edición francesa, según el bdinfo filtrado, sigue el camino de la italiana, muy similar bitrate, SDR, Atmos en francés, 5.1 en inglés.
    Casiusco y Branagh/Doyle han agradecido esto.

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    La edición francesa, según el bdinfo filtrado, sigue el camino de la italiana, muy similar bitrate, SDR, Atmos en francés, 5.1 en inglés.
    Que extraño. El Blu-Ray alemán (no ya el UHD, digo el Blu-Ray), tiene Atmos en alemán y en inglés, o al menos eso indica la contracaratula . Lo de la falta de HDR tampoco lo entiendo, todas las peliculas de Coppola editadas en UHD hasta la fecha lo han tenido.


    En fin...

    PD: Entiendo que si se quiere pista Atmos en inglés con subtitulos tambien en inglés, habrá que adquirir la edición británica si o si, ¿correcto?
    Última edición por Branagh/Doyle; 26/02/2025 a las 16:56 Razón: Errata
    Muthur ha agradecido esto.
    "There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”

    John Ottman.

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    Si el UHD no viene con HDR (ergo sin WCG) es un UHD fake, por lo que cambiaré el objetivo por una edición blu-ray en latita. Lo que me ahorro en el formato, lo gasto en el packaging.

    Me espero a que haya ediciones en la calle y alguna review, pero parece que habrá que hacer downgrade de formato. ¡Nada es perfecto!
    Jp1138, Branagh/Doyle y jurassicworld han agradecido esto.
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    Si el UHD no viene con HDR (ergo sin WCG) es un UHD fake, por lo que cambiaré el objetivo por una edición blu-ray en latita. Lo que me ahorro en el formato, lo gasto en el packaging.

    Me espero a que haya ediciones en la calle y alguna review, pero parece que habrá que hacer downgrade de formato. ¡Nada es perfecto!
    Pero que les costará, madre mía. ¿El Atmos si y el HDR no?

    No tiene mucho sentido.

    En fin...
    jurassicworld ha agradecido esto.
    "There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”

    John Ottman.

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    Estoy viendo que el steelbook francés incluye un libreto de 28 páginas.
    "There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”

    John Ottman.

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    Ya se puede pedir (ha salido hoy).

    Y efectivamente, según la web de fnac Francia, ni HDR, ni Dolby Vision. Si tiene extras, incluyendo un par de documentales y el audiocomentario de Coppola.


    "There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”

    John Ottman.

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    EDITION SteelBook, Spéciale FNAC
    AUDIO V.O. DTS-HD MA 5.1
    AUDIO V.F. Dolby Atmos [TrueHD 7.1]
    DOLBY VISION Non
    HDR Non
    MASTER DI Master DI 4K
    GENRE Drame, Science-Fiction
    DURÉE 138' (2h18)
    FORMAT 2.00
    DATE RÉALISATION 2024
    "There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”

    John Ottman.

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    Entiendo que lo de master DI a 4K, se refiere a que ha sido finalizada integramente en 4K, ¿no?. VFX incluidos. Vamos, que es una edición "nativa" en 4K, nada de reescalado.
    "There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”

    John Ottman.

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    Pues Blu-Ray.com, en la ficha, pone que la edición Italiana no tiene HDR pero la Francesa si. Aclarense, por favor.
    "There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”

    John Ottman.

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    Y en la Británica, que sale el 10 de Marzo, también indican que traerá HDR10 y se incluye lo siguiente:

    British label Entertainment in Video (EIV) is preparing a 4K Blu-ray SteelBook edition of Francis Ford Coppola's Megalopolis (2024), starring Adam Driver, Giancarlo Esposito, Laurence Fishburne, Talia Shire, and Jon Voight. The release is scheduled to arrive on the market on March 3
    "There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”

    John Ottman.

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    Pues Blu-Ray.com, en la ficha, pone que la edición Italiana no tiene HDR pero la Francesa si. Aclarense, por favor.
    Ojo, que en Bluray.com las fichas son de los usuarios.
    Branagh/Doyle ha agradecido esto.

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    Ojo, que en Bluray.com las fichas son de los usuarios.
    Ah, pues entonces no he dicho nada.
    PrimeCallahan ha agradecido esto.
    "There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”

    John Ottman.

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    Yo me he pillado el de UK, ya os dire que tal
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    Yo me he pillado el de UK, ya os dire que tal
    Okey. Si no te es molestia, por favor cuentanos si el audiocomentario de Coppola viene con subtitulos en ingles, si el audio en inglés viene en Dolby Atmos y si el video 4K está en SDR o en HDR.

    "There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”

    John Ottman.

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    Unboxing del steelbook francés. Sin HDR, y con Dolby Atmos solo en la pista de audio francesa.

    No obstante, comentan en los foros de Blu-Ray.com que por alguna razón la compresión es bastante mejor en el disco 4K que el BD 1080p, así que obrad como considereis.

    Raulvz y Muthur han agradecido esto.
    "There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”

    John Ottman.

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    La edición británica sale hoy. ¿No hay ningún análisis publicado todavía?

    Que raro.
    "There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”

    John Ottman.

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    Parece que la edición británica tampoco tiene HDR, ni Dolby Atmos. Subtítulos en inglés unicamente, tanto para la pelicula como para los extras.


    El audiocomentario de Coppola no viene en el disco 4K, sino en el BD 1080p (que también se incluye en el steelbook).

    Vaya tela.

    Al menos parece que el video tiene un bitrate muy generoso y una codificación impecable.
    Marty_McFly, BruceTimm y Muthur han agradecido esto.
    "There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”

    John Ottman.

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    Parece que la edición británica tampoco tiene HDR, ni Dolby Atmos. Subtítulos en inglés unicamente, tanto para la pelicula como para los extras.


    El audiocomentario de Coppola no viene en el disco 4K, sino en el BD 1080p (que también se incluye en el steelbook).
    Pues cada vez está más claro que lo que se viene para casa es la edición blu-ray...
    Branagh/Doyle ha agradecido esto.
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    Pues cada vez está más claro que lo que se viene para casa es la edición blu-ray...
    Si porque en USA no se ha anunciado nada aún. A comprar esta.
    "There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”

    John Ottman.

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    "There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”

    John Ottman.

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    Pues se vendrá para casa el blu-ray de UK. Mientras haya opción, hay colección.
    Casiusco y Branagh/Doyle han agradecido esto.
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    Pues se vendrá para casa el blu-ray de UK. Mientras haya opción, hay colección.
    Pues si. Menos da una piedra.
    "There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”

    John Ottman.

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    El asunto, con más detalle. El último parrafo es muy interesante.

    “Megalopolis” won’t be given a 4K release in North America; if you want it on disc, you’ll have to import it from overseas. Lionsgate is refusing to give it a physical release. Which means that if you want to purchase the film on 4K disc or Blu-Ray, the European SKUs are the only way to go.

    To make matters worse, “Megalopolis” is no longer available on Digital in the U.S. It got pulled from every VOD platform, and there’s no information on when, or even if, will ever return.

    So, just to be clear, not only are you not able to stream “Megalopolis” anywhere, but you won’t either be able to buy a physical release of it? The only way to currently watch “Megalopolis” would be via illegal means on Torrents sites.

    I asked around about a potential Criterion release, and a source tells me that there had been talks between Criterion and Coppola, but that nothing materialized out of it, at least not yet. What exactly is Coppola demanding from Criterion? If I were him, I’d just let them do whatever they want with it.


    There is no rational reason for Lionsgate to refuse to release it. This film's entire release strategy, from its distribution to its advertising campaign to its erasure from physical existence in the US, is about harming Coppola. He made a $120 million movie outside the studio system, and he's being punished for it.

    Shame on us, because the fact remains that there is much to love about Coppola's strange, difficult film, and it deserves to be watched again (and again).

    Última edición por Branagh/Doyle; 08/03/2025 a las 10:26 Razón: Me comí un trozo/errata
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    "There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”

    John Ottman.

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    El asunto, con más detalle. El último parrafo es muy interesante.

    “Megalopolis” won’t be given a 4K release in North America; if you want it on disc, you’ll have to import it from overseas. Lionsgate is refusing to give it a physical release. Which means that if you want to purchase the film on 4K disc or Blu-Ray, the European SKUs are the only way to go.

    To make matters worse, “Megalopolis” is no longer available on Digital in the U.S. It got pulled from every VOD platform, and there’s no information on when, or even if, will ever return.

    So, just to be clear, not only are you not able to stream “Megalopolis” anywhere, but you won’t either be able to buy a physical release of it? The only way to currently watch “Megalopolis” would be via illegal means on Torrents sites.

    I asked around about a potential Criterion release, and a source tells me that there had been talks between Criterion and Coppola, but that nothing materialized out of it, at least not yet. What exactly is Coppola demanding from Criterion? If I were him, I’d just let them do whatever they want with it.


    There is no rational reason for Lionsgate to refuse to release it. This film's entire release strategy, from its distribution to its advertising campaign to its erasure from physical existence in the US, is about harming Coppola. He made a $120 million movie outside the studio system, and he's being punished for it.

    Shame on us, because the fact remains that there is much to love about Coppola's strange, difficult film, and it deserves to be watched again (and again).

    Otro punto de vista, de los foros de Blu-Ray.com


    This article actually leads me believe even more that Coppola is leaning toward a US Criterion release. They just haven’t finished negotiating the deal yet. It’s not a flat out no. And Coppola owns the film, Lionsgate only had theatrical distribution rights, so Lionsgate’s plans beyond that are irrelevant.

    If anything, it confirms that Coppola is actively working on giving this film a physical media release in the US. He’s also a big fan of physical media, so I can’t imagine him not wanting to give this film a release in the US.
    Casiusco, leoky y Raulvz han agradecido esto.
    "There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”

    John Ottman.

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