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Por FIN, anunciada en Japón en formato físico, en 4K, con Dolby Atmos+Vision. Lanzamiento el 3 de julio de 2024.
Nada de inglés en el UHD; solo japonés; pero parece que el BD si que tiene inglés, y hasta español, en audio y subtítulos.
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Abiertas las reservas en Amazon.
Edición estandar https://www.amazon.co.jp/The-Boy-and...=AN1VRQENFRJN5
Edición con regalo https://www.amazon.co.jp/The-Boy-and...&th=1&psc=1&m=
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Iniciado por javibl
Son los gastos de envío de la edición con regalo... La edición sin regalo se queda en 105.
Curioso lo de "regalo" :D
Un día normal en el formato físico en Japón.Cita:
Iniciado por javibl
Esto no saldrá en ningún lado con al menos subs en español, ¿verdad? Es que voy a japón en verano y si se da el caso pues igual cae.
Pido disculpas. Parece que hubo un malentendido y un error por mi parte, y el UHD no tendrá NADA de inglés al parecer, según la ficha ''tecnica'' de Walt Disney Studios Japan (el distribuidor de la película en formato físico)
Tan solo tendrá japonés en audio y subs. La cosa extraña es que el BD si que tendrá inglés, ¡y parece que hasta español! A falta de aclarar si es castellano o latino. También subtitulado. Pero no será Dolby Atmos en el doblaje inglés (habrá que esperar a la edición de GKids). El UHD tiene Dolby Atmos japonés, y el BD tiene DTS-HD MA 7.1. Los doblajes están todos en Dolby Digital 5.1, como es costumbre con los BDs de Ghibli en Japón.
Si se quiere una opción 4K con inglés en subtitulos (al menos en 4K) habrá que esperar a una edición americana, si es que sale, o a una edición asiática con inglés.
https://www.waltdisneystudios.jp/kim...ducts#4k-uhd-1
El regalo es un sablazo jajaja,ahora mismo la 4K estandar esta en 103.84€
Anunciada por GKIDS en USA para el 9 de julio
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Ambas ediciones vendran con este poster
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Audios y subtitulos
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Anda, ¡que sorpresa! Tan solo unos días después de Japón, no me la esperaba tan temprano. Usualmente para estas cosas se suelen tardar mucho.. esperemos que el 4K UHD sea libre de región. Si además tiene español (latino, seguramente) será la mejor opción, porque no creo que en Europa haya algo mejor.. mas asequible al bolsillo, si, pero sin inglés o español.
Abiertas las reservas en la tienda de GKIDS; confirmado Dolby Vision+Atmos.
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The 4K UHD Edition of The Boy and the Heron is a two-disc set that includes 4K UHD™ + Blu-ray™, featuring Dolby Vision plus Dolby Atmos for the ultimate home entertainment experience. This is the first title from Studio Ghibli to ever be released on 4K UHD.
https://store.gkids.com/collections/...-and-the-heron
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Bonus Features**
Feature-Length Storyboards**
Interview with Composer Joe Hisaishi**
Interview with Producer Toshio Suzuki
Interview with Supervising Animator Takeshi Honda**
Drawing with Takeshi Honda**
"Spinning Globe" Music Video**
Teasers & Trailers
**Blu-ray disc only.
Por ahora solo estan disponibles en la tienda de GKids,en Amazon aun nada
https://store.gkids.com/products/the...eron-steelbook
https://store.gkids.com/products/4k-...-and-the-heron
https://store.gkids.com/products/the-boy-and-the-heron
Belle también indicaba región A y al final hubo suerte.
Hay un error. En la descripcion del amaray pone dolby vision y en la del steelbook HDR10. Cual es la buena???
A todo esto, solo envian a USA y Canada.
Salu2
Ahora mismo las reservas están disponibles en la tienda de GKids, pronto abrirán las de Amazon USA que si envian fuera.
En cuanto al error de descripcion, ni idea. Pero seguro que es eso, un error.
El UHD tendrá Dolby Atmos en japonés en inglés y Dolby Vision/HDR10, a pesar de la confusión, que ya está arreglada. En la contraportada tambien pone solo HDR pero luego abajo el logo de Dolby Vision+Atmos.
El BD tendrá DTS-HD MA 7.1 para japonés e inglés. Copian el modelo de la edición japonesa, que también deja el Atmos solo para el UHD y el DTS HD MA 7.1 para el BD.
Esperemos que el encoding sea bueno; pero el japonés le superará tres mil veces, ya que la casa que usa Ghibli/Disney para estos BDs son de referencia máxima. Una idea de como se verá esta película en 4K es ver el 4K japonés de la peli de Studio Ponoc ''Mary and the Little Witch''..
Ignorad que no pone Dolby Atmos en el UHD; lo tendrá en inglés y japonés.
Información jugosa de un forero en Blu-ray.com:Cita:
Bonus Features for UHD/Blu-ray
DISC ONE (4K UHD):
In Dolby Vision (HDR-10 Compatible)
Audio: DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 Surround English, DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 Surround Japanese, Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround Spanish, Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround English AD
DISC TWO (BLU-RAY):
Audio: DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 Surround English, DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 Surround Japanese, Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround Spanish, Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround English AD
Interview With Composer Joe Hisaishi
Interview With Producer Toship Suzuki
Interview With Animation Supervisor Takeshi Honda
Drawing With Takeshi Honda
Storyboard Reel
Spinning Globe Music Video
Teasers & Trailers
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Having seen it twice theatrically (first in Japanese in IMAX and second dubbed in a normal cinema), the localised credits were in the dubbed screening, so it’ll be seamlessly branched on disc. Hopefully it’s competently authored this time, as Weathering With You has an actual pause due to layer transitions because the placement of the files was poorly thought out (and that disc is shit anyways, but Duplitech have really stepped up their game since then, it seems).
The 4K master itself seems to have been rather decently upscaled, which is a good surprise considering IMAGICA’s involvement (their 4K anime upscales tend to be on the rather sharpened side), but, knowing how Miyazaki is rather particular on the visual side of things, it’s not too horribly surprising, even if he didn’t personally oversee it, nor the HDR conversion.
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The film was produced in 2K SDR, and then upscaled to 4K by IMAGICA, HDR/Dolby Vision grading was carried out at Dolby's facilities in Japan, and the IMAX conversion was handled in the United States, the latter two having been approved by the DoP and Producer Toshio Suzuki. (The IMAX conversion disabled grain reduction)
The thing which makes modern Ghibli films harder to upscale than your average digital anime film is the processing applied. Yes, there's a layer of light fake grain, but that can easily be dealt with. Instead I'm talking about the gate weave. Look at a digitally produced Ghibli film starting with Ponyo and you'll notice that Ghibli have mimicked projection gate weave by shifting the image up and down throughout the film's duration. That constant changing of the geometry makes upscaling their films rather tricky to get right, because data from previous frames may be useless due to the altered positioning (and the fake grain), so it requires a more thought out approach, which hopefully is the case here.
The Atmos audio mix is native, by the way.
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Thanks. I always try to be as informative as possible with these kind of posts. In particular, here are my sources (in Japanese) so people don't think I'm making things up:
Image article
Sound article
The Japanese discs for the Ghibli films have been handled by Panasonic Hollywood Lab (or whatever it's called now), because of how "particular Miyazaki is about image making" (citation), and you can easily tell from the Japanese Ghibli discs. The encodes on them are outstanding, and easily best the ones produced overseas. They even utilise Panasonic's Master Grade Video Codec process for 12-bit video on certain (Japanese only) Panasonic players. It's incredible stuff.
Studio Ponoc, formed by ex-Ghibli staff who left after the "last hurrah" of the simultaneous releases of The Wind Rises, The Tale of the Princess Kaguya and When Marnie Was There (the last three Ghibli films for a long time), also uses them for their discs (also distributed by Disney in Japan), so Mary and the Witch's Flower serves as a good taste test for 4K Ghibli, and it is outstanding. The encode is first rate, with a ~90 mbps bitrate that regularly peaks above 130 mbps, and preserves the grain and gate weave with no issues. We're in good hands for the Japanese UHD, assuming they do it (which I can't see why they'd only do the BD and not UHD; the BD has MGVC mentioned, so obviously Panasonic are doing that).
As for the back-catalog... the entire Ghibli filmography finished photochemically was restored in 4K SDR for the Blu-rays from 6K OCN scans, and you can really tell. The only questionable element is the colour grading. For better or worse, Miyazaki decided to askew grading the films for BD, and after the standard inversion of negative film, were left basically untouched... degraded from how they originally were. The only digital work done was image restoration (which I'd imagine was quite intense, seeing that in Japan, the standard practice for producing theatrical prints was to strike them directly off the OCN, rather than use a second or third generation element like was standard in the west. I believe some films in Hong Kong were done this way as well, which is why it's super common to hear about these titles being in such horrible physical condition; it additionally would explain why a lot of anime are restored from interpositives and not the OCN, as because of the way prints were struck, an IP could very likely look much better), and sans the remastered disc of Nausicaä produced for the Japanese Miyazaki Blu-ray box set (which the GKids BD also uses), the colours have been left virtually untouched, and when compared to animation cels, often look different.
Now, I LOVE the "warts and all" look of the Ghibli restorations (and fan artists online do too, given how many artists tend to use that palette for art because of a e s t h e t i c qualities, even if some other retro aesthetics can be dead on wrong), but it would be interesting to see the Ghibli titles graded with more accurate palettes. I'd also be fine with the existing 4K SDR masters being released on UHD as-is. They're of an outstanding quality given their vintage.
Oh, and the GKids UHD of The Boy and the Heron has more extras than the Japanese release.
[Show spoiler]
Lastly, on the topic of the title, I think the international title is a reference to Le Roi et l'Oiseau (The King and the Mockingbird), which Miyazaki is a big fan of (much of Count Cagliostro's castle is ripped off borrowed from said film, as an example). That's just a guess on my part, though.
Cruzaremos los dedos para que no la bloqueen. Hubo una anterior (Weathering with You) que sí vino bloqueada pero por la cual dijeron posteriormente que había sido un error.
No será el primer uhd USA que me como bloqueado de zona. Es raro pero no imposible.
Hay que hacerse con un reproductor region - free.... que nunca se sabe! :sudor:leeCita:
Iniciado por HanSolo
Salu2.
Siempre es mejor un repro de USA.
Pero se supone que los discos UHD 4K son abiertos de zona. Me estoy perdiendo algo?
No siempre. Doy fe. Háblame fue un ejemplo.Cita:
Iniciado por Fredy Urbano
De todas formas no hay más de una decena de pelis bloqueadas que nos afecten a nosotros.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=334606
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Iniciado por HanSolo
Pero en el caso de EL CHICO Y LA GARZA en su edición USA vendrá bloqueada? O todavía es muy pronto para saberlo. Veo que en el trasero del amaray pone Región A.