Bueno, bueno el 3o....
(qué mona es Penance Adair )
Debería de conocer a Whedon. Y lo dejo aquí
Bueno, bueno el 3o....
(qué mona es Penance Adair )
Debería de conocer a Whedon. Y lo dejo aquí
Bottom line is, even if you see 'em coming, you're not ready
for the big moments.No one asks for their life to change, not really. But it
does.So what are we, helpless? Puppets? No. The big moments are
gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that
counts. That's when you find out who you are. You'll see what I mean.
Whistler (Buffy The Vampire Slayer - 2x21 Becoming, Part One - Joss Whedon)
Visto el 4o y último de los que puedo ver.
De nuevo muy bien. Era inevitable que al final entres, y fuerte, en lo que suele suceder en series de este tipo. Hay giros digamos habituales en el género y en series así pero Whedon, que ya sabemos que pretende, busca que te aferres a los personajes, a la sensación de grupo y a las emociones.
Sólo echo de menos algo de fantasía sci fi, magia etc NO es tan X-Women como parece. Tienen poderes peroSpoiler:
Bottom line is, even if you see 'em coming, you're not ready
for the big moments.No one asks for their life to change, not really. But it
does.So what are we, helpless? Puppets? No. The big moments are
gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that
counts. That's when you find out who you are. You'll see what I mean.
Whistler (Buffy The Vampire Slayer - 2x21 Becoming, Part One - Joss Whedon)
Imagino que eso se debe también al formato HBO/serie moderna que básicamente se crea de distinta forma que sus series previas de network: si entonces era plantear un tema (el mandato, que decía él), y unos anclajes básicos (en el ep 6 debe suceder esto, en el 10 tal, en el 16 esto, en el 22 terminamos así), así como villano, conceptos y tal y luego entre los guionistas van decidiendo que sucederá en cada episodio (aunque en Buffy y Firefly casi que eso era siempre cosa de Whedon), en estas series de ahora casi que es como hacer una película: escritura completa en X meses, rodaje y post producción.
Imagino que reclutó guionistas cuando el argumento estaba escrito. Luego lo seccionaron en 10 eps y finalmente repartieron entre todos los episodios para dialogar los mismos.
Viendo los 4 eps me da que ha estado en plató todo el rato (de hecho estuvo en Londres casi sin interrupción, salvo Navidad, desde abril 2019 hasta mediados de noviembre de 2020).
La narrativa es tipo HBO pero hay giros y tal. Lo importante es que para el 4o te conoces a todas las chicas. Hay 3 que son del tipo que si desaparecen te vas a cagar en su estampa. Miedo. Aunque en el caso de una lo dudo muchísimo. Por lo menos de momento. Hablo de Ann Skelly/Penance Adair.
Repito: Amalia True mola mucho. Es como una Malcom Reynolds pero en mujer e inglesa.
Bottom line is, even if you see 'em coming, you're not ready
for the big moments.No one asks for their life to change, not really. But it
does.So what are we, helpless? Puppets? No. The big moments are
gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that
counts. That's when you find out who you are. You'll see what I mean.
Whistler (Buffy The Vampire Slayer - 2x21 Becoming, Part One - Joss Whedon)
Casi que una mezcla de ambos aunque tiene mucho del que vimos en el piloto de Firefly.
A Whedon ya sabes que le va que el personaje esté roto y además mole mucho, como intentando solucionar o redimirse por algo. En ese sentido la Donnelly lo clava.
En efecto suceder, sucede poco.. Pero es que creo que han ido a buscar ese efecto final de querer al grupo que es lo que, a la postre, te dan ganas de repetir + seguir viendo más sin estar pendiente de lo que sucede.
No he visto el 5o (han enviado 4) pero sé que en el 5o se da a conocer el origen de Amalia y creo que el de su amistad con Adair.
Bottom line is, even if you see 'em coming, you're not ready
for the big moments.No one asks for their life to change, not really. But it
does.So what are we, helpless? Puppets? No. The big moments are
gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that
counts. That's when you find out who you are. You'll see what I mean.
Whistler (Buffy The Vampire Slayer - 2x21 Becoming, Part One - Joss Whedon)
A mi la narrativa, faltándome por ver el 5 y 6 (esos en teoría no los ha visto nadie), me parece adaptada a lo que se lleva ahora debido al formato peli-larga de Netflix/HBO y demás: el mamonazo se marca una de las suyas, no digo más, pero es como muy pronto. Normal, como digo, con este formato no hay tiempo.
Dicho esto, se siente en los diálogos (con ese punto de autoconsciencia y además jugando con su pasión brit en el lenguaje) que se han sentando las bases de anclajes emocionales que se preparan para más adelante.
Última edición por Synch; 08/04/2021 a las 04:03
Bottom line is, even if you see 'em coming, you're not ready
for the big moments.No one asks for their life to change, not really. But it
does.So what are we, helpless? Puppets? No. The big moments are
gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that
counts. That's when you find out who you are. You'll see what I mean.
Whistler (Buffy The Vampire Slayer - 2x21 Becoming, Part One - Joss Whedon)
‘The Nevers’ S1E1 ‘Touched’ review: A familiar feel with standout characters
It has the makings of a series fans of The Magicians may love, but the spunk of previous shows Joss Whedon created like Firefly. In fact, it’s very much of the same vein as Firefly right down to the kick-ass women and often used jokes when danger is most present. For all of these reasons, The Nevers feels entirely new, but also very familiar, which for many will resonate since it’s not a huge leap to dive in and enjoy it.
Familiar themes of prejudice and even sexism towards the women are depicted before the episode dives into a lively fight scene that leads to a chase sequence. It’s here where the identity of the show becomes clear as it mixes in action, adventure, superpowers, and plenty of mystery as we the viewer navigate a world that’s unclear to nearly everyone. That includes True and she can see the future! It’s not quite the usual puzzle-box show, it’s not clear what the motivations are of nearly all of these characters, but it’s definitely a show you’ll want to discuss with friends every Monday morning.
That said, the acting is superb and each character feels wholly unique and positioned to be as exciting as the next. Laura Donnelly and Ann Skelly steal the show in this opening episode and they are very easy to root for thanks to their powers, abilities, and great acting from both.
The fact is, there isn’t another fantasy series like The Nevers currently being released that is made for adults. Especially one that isn’t a direct adaptation of a comics series and for that reason I suspect most comic book fans will enjoy this and very much will enjoy its general vibe. With The Nevers, come for the superpowers and premise, but stay for the great characters and acting.
Bottom line is, even if you see 'em coming, you're not ready
for the big moments.No one asks for their life to change, not really. But it
does.So what are we, helpless? Puppets? No. The big moments are
gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that
counts. That's when you find out who you are. You'll see what I mean.
Whistler (Buffy The Vampire Slayer - 2x21 Becoming, Part One - Joss Whedon)
Anna Devlin (Primrose) en la promo... Muy sutil. Mirad abajo a la derecha
Buffy
Bottom line is, even if you see 'em coming, you're not ready
for the big moments.No one asks for their life to change, not really. But it
does.So what are we, helpless? Puppets? No. The big moments are
gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that
counts. That's when you find out who you are. You'll see what I mean.
Whistler (Buffy The Vampire Slayer - 2x21 Becoming, Part One - Joss Whedon)
Bottom line is, even if you see 'em coming, you're not ready
for the big moments.No one asks for their life to change, not really. But it
does.So what are we, helpless? Puppets? No. The big moments are
gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that
counts. That's when you find out who you are. You'll see what I mean.
Whistler (Buffy The Vampire Slayer - 2x21 Becoming, Part One - Joss Whedon)
Bottom line is, even if you see 'em coming, you're not ready
for the big moments.No one asks for their life to change, not really. But it
does.So what are we, helpless? Puppets? No. The big moments are
gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that
counts. That's when you find out who you are. You'll see what I mean.
Whistler (Buffy The Vampire Slayer - 2x21 Becoming, Part One - Joss Whedon)
Ignoro la ciudad pero es España, claro:
Última edición por Synch; 09/04/2021 a las 17:14
Bottom line is, even if you see 'em coming, you're not ready
for the big moments.No one asks for their life to change, not really. But it
does.So what are we, helpless? Puppets? No. The big moments are
gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that
counts. That's when you find out who you are. You'll see what I mean.
Whistler (Buffy The Vampire Slayer - 2x21 Becoming, Part One - Joss Whedon)
Bottom line is, even if you see 'em coming, you're not ready
for the big moments.No one asks for their life to change, not really. But it
does.So what are we, helpless? Puppets? No. The big moments are
gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that
counts. That's when you find out who you are. You'll see what I mean.
Whistler (Buffy The Vampire Slayer - 2x21 Becoming, Part One - Joss Whedon)
Huele a plan longo de 2 años. Hay personajes que doy por hecho van a tener si historia/revelación en la trama. Por ejemplo, sin spoilers gordos, pero Amalia huele mucho a que su origen (que parece se cuenta en el 5o, dirigido por Whedon) va a tener miga (si primera escena en el 1x01 digamos que.. Necesita explicación de como ha llegado a esa situación vital), sin embargo no hay rastro de ello en Penance y FIJO que por ahí nos la cuelan.
Última edición por Synch; 09/04/2021 a las 21:05
Bottom line is, even if you see 'em coming, you're not ready
for the big moments.No one asks for their life to change, not really. But it
does.So what are we, helpless? Puppets? No. The big moments are
gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that
counts. That's when you find out who you are. You'll see what I mean.
Whistler (Buffy The Vampire Slayer - 2x21 Becoming, Part One - Joss Whedon)
Bottom line is, even if you see 'em coming, you're not ready
for the big moments.No one asks for their life to change, not really. But it
does.So what are we, helpless? Puppets? No. The big moments are
gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that
counts. That's when you find out who you are. You'll see what I mean.
Whistler (Buffy The Vampire Slayer - 2x21 Becoming, Part One - Joss Whedon)
Durante la filmación y el paron por la pandemia (en el que se siguió trabajando aunque no en rodaje, claro) algunas de las amistades surgidas en The Nevers se concentraron en la casa que Whedon y su ahora esposa, Heather Horton, tenían (imagino que alquilada, no sé si cosa de la HBO, pero sería lo normal) en Londres.
Concretamente Ann Skelly y Rochelle Neill pasaron tiempo (puedo decir que bastante, buena y sana amistad, sobre todo con la Skelly, que además parece un amor de persona) (y qué acento ) con Heather Horton (esta ya confirmo yo que es una crack) ya posaron para ella y sus pinturas.
A la Skelly la fotografió para referencia y de ahí salieron varios cuadros (ya vendidos, por una pasta):
(fotos del propio Whedon)
Rochelle Neill se pasó por la casa más tarde, ya en primavera de 2020:
Hoy mismo Heather ha recordado en sus redes una de los cuadros de Ann (obviamente es por The Nevers pero no hace mención a ello):
A favourite portrait of dear friend and muse Ann. Paint can only capture 1/10 of her magic, but I’ll take it. Palo de corazones:-)
“The Paladin”, oil on panel, 18”x24”, private collection.
https://twitter.com/Heather_Horton/s...092965889?s=20
Última edición por Synch; 11/04/2021 a las 01:26
Bottom line is, even if you see 'em coming, you're not ready
for the big moments.No one asks for their life to change, not really. But it
does.So what are we, helpless? Puppets? No. The big moments are
gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that
counts. That's when you find out who you are. You'll see what I mean.
Whistler (Buffy The Vampire Slayer - 2x21 Becoming, Part One - Joss Whedon)
Pues es casualidad sí. Una amiga en común les presentó y....
Gran foto. Es el cumple de ella. En ese jardin medio cast de Nevers estuvo asi de invitado. E ya.
La foto que dices con Mofatt es de una noche 2019 en London tras ir juntos a X obra de teatro en Londres.
Heather es una crack y le va mucho el cine, TV y, claro, el arte.
Última edición por Synch; 11/04/2021 a las 20:54
Bottom line is, even if you see 'em coming, you're not ready
for the big moments.No one asks for their life to change, not really. But it
does.So what are we, helpless? Puppets? No. The big moments are
gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that
counts. That's when you find out who you are. You'll see what I mean.
Whistler (Buffy The Vampire Slayer - 2x21 Becoming, Part One - Joss Whedon)
Por lo que he visto, las críticas son por ahora muy tibias. Me pregunto si tiene algo que ver los temas extra-cinematográficos, algo muy habitual sobre todo en USA. En cualquier caso, para mí no es significativo. A ver mañana qué me encuentro.
I'd imagine the whole world was one big machine. Machines never come with any extra parts, you know. They always come with the exact amount they need. So I figured, if the entire world was one big machine, I couldn't be an extra part. I had to be here for some reason.(HUGO)
A Tom Riley le han preguntado que tal fue trabajar con Whedon durante la primera ronda (tiene que ser sept-nov, cuando el rodaje de los episodios 5 y 6) de acusaciones:
Tom Riley on working on The Nevers with Joss Whedon: ‘I’m obviously aware of the maelstrom at the moment’
So what was Whedon like on set?
“I’m obviously aware of the maelstrom that surrounds [this] at the moment,” says Riley, “so when I say this, I am only speaking, obviously, from my own experience and not the experiences of anyone else at whatever point in time.
“I couldn’t have had a more faultless experience. That’s the truth. I obviously only speak for myself. And I think to an extent, based on our very active WhatsApp threads, for the entire cast of this show and crew of this show, it was an incredibly collaborative and safe experience. He was very soft spoken on set and very intuitive, gave brilliant notes [and] was very up for changing things if you had suggestions that he vibed with. I found it to be a pleasure.”
Bottom line is, even if you see 'em coming, you're not ready
for the big moments.No one asks for their life to change, not really. But it
does.So what are we, helpless? Puppets? No. The big moments are
gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that
counts. That's when you find out who you are. You'll see what I mean.
Whistler (Buffy The Vampire Slayer - 2x21 Becoming, Part One - Joss Whedon)
La crítica no la está poniendo muy allá. Yo veré hoy el primero
Review del primer episodio. Obviamente repleto de spoilers.
Bottom line is, even if you see 'em coming, you're not ready
for the big moments.No one asks for their life to change, not really. But it
does.So what are we, helpless? Puppets? No. The big moments are
gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that
counts. That's when you find out who you are. You'll see what I mean.
Whistler (Buffy The Vampire Slayer - 2x21 Becoming, Part One - Joss Whedon)
Pues he visto el primero... y me ha encantado.
Nunca he sido un especial fan de las series de Whedon (vi Firefly en su momento, y cuatro o cinco episodios mal contados de Buffy y Angel), pero me atraía la temática de la propuesta (¿“mutantes” en la época victoriana? ¿Steampunk?.... compro ), y creo que el resultado es bastante interesante; la historia engancha, los personajes son muy atrayentes , y los diálogos deliciosamente punzantes. Creía que iba a ser un aburrido pastiche sin gracia, el cual tendría que quitar a los quince minutos (como infinidad de otras series), y me ha dejado con ganas de más.
Maravillosa música de Mark Isham, por cierto...
Un saludo.
P.D: he encontrado este hilo en twitter de la encargada de la traducción de los subtítulos en castellano para la serie. Es bastante interesante.
https://mobile.twitter.com/pathenriq...17940340752385
Terrence Malick: “Nunca he sido capaz de trabajar con storyboards.
Es como meter un cubo por un agujero redondo”.
Ya cansa la agenda woke; a ver cuánto tardan en cancelar.
Por cierto, al principio no he reconocido a Ben Chaplin. Joder cómo pasa el tiempo!
visto el 1º.
meh...
no me llama.
Quiere abarcar demasiado en apenas 60 minutos sin apenas explicar el por de que cada cosa, sufre de pilotitis.
Bottom line is, even if you see 'em coming, you're not ready
for the big moments.No one asks for their life to change, not really. But it
does.So what are we, helpless? Puppets? No. The big moments are
gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that
counts. That's when you find out who you are. You'll see what I mean.
Whistler (Buffy The Vampire Slayer - 2x21 Becoming, Part One - Joss Whedon)
No sé si tiene mucho mérito porque pocas originales se deben haber estrenado en HBO Max
TV Ratings: ‘The Nevers’ Delivers Best-Ever Debut for Original Series on HBO Max
HBO’s “The Nevers” drew over 1.4 million viewers across linear telecasts and digital during its premiere on Sunday night, scoring the best debut for a new HBO original series on HBO Max and surpassing viewership for other popular shows on the streamer, including “Lovecraft Country” and “The Undoing.”
More to come…
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‘The Nevers’ Debuts to Best Ratings for Original Series on HBO Max With 1.4 Million Viewers
Última edición por Synch; 13/04/2021 a las 02:26
Bottom line is, even if you see 'em coming, you're not ready
for the big moments.No one asks for their life to change, not really. But it
does.So what are we, helpless? Puppets? No. The big moments are
gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that
counts. That's when you find out who you are. You'll see what I mean.
Whistler (Buffy The Vampire Slayer - 2x21 Becoming, Part One - Joss Whedon)