Tema: Star Wars: El despertar de la fuerza (Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens, 2015, J.J. Abrams)

Parece que TFA la ha liado bien gorda en la taquilla australiana.

Synch

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Yo solo me limito a decir lo que he leido por ahi. No es mi opinion.

Cojonudo. Me acabo de comer por error el pedazo spoiler de david227 pensando que era solo la respuesta de si aparecia al principio lo de las letras de Episodio 7.

Lo siento!

Hombre, los spoilers se usan para eso: para ocultar aspectos de la trama que el espectador no quiere saber hasta ver la película; no creo que haga falta hacer uso de los privados, con no abrir la pestaña es suficiente

El problema es que hay gente que ve el spoiler, pincha (porque sucumben al lado oscuro y quieren verlo) y luego se quejan pidiendo que lo pongais en el privado. Cuando a esa persona nadie le ha obligado a pinchar el spoiler. Si lo ha visto es porque ha querido

La mayoria de los spoilers son cosas que ya se sabian hace medio año. Por eso Abrams se puso nervioso en verano y dijo:

"Hay que adelantar el estreno del film a este verano, porque se está filtrando todo".

El que lo filtró, era alguien de dentro del rodaje, porque todo era cierto.

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Lo siento!

No te preocupes tio, que ha sido solo culpa mia. De una torpeza increible. Ni Jar Jar . Lo que mas me fastidia es que quizas sea encima de las dos cosas mas gordas en cuanto a sorpresas. Aunque no dudo que aun habra varias mas, no?. O eso espero porque no veas lo frustrado que estoy por haber aguantado 2 años sin leer foros raros ni spoiler ni spots incluso estos dias y ahora para a dos dias de verla joderme yo mismo eso tan gordo. Para matarme! :(

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No te preocupes tio, que ha sido solo culpa mia. De una torpeza increible. Ni Jar Jar . Lo que mas me fastidia es que quizas sea encima de las dos cosas mas gordas en cuanto a sorpresas. Aunque no dudo que aun habra varias mas, no?. O eso espero porque no veas lo frustrado que estoy por haber aguantado 2 años sin leer foros raros ni spoiler ni spots incluso estos dias y ahora para a dos dias de verla joderme yo mismo eso tan gordo. Para matarme! :(

Joder, qué putada, no sé qué decirte tío. No me hagas ni caso que yo muchas veces no me entero de lo que veo. Igual me equivoco...

Vista anoche en la premier de medianoche de mi país: me ha encantado! Tiene una forma de introducir los elementos de las anteriores películas pero sin defraudar a la hora de agregar a los nuevos personajes. La historia cumple y si bien es cierto tiene varios paralelismos con algunos elementos de las anteriores, creo que se sostiene por sí sola (aunque fijo este elemento molestará a varios). No contesta algunas preguntas pero tiene sentido sabiendo que falta todavía dos películas.

Resalto mucho el uso de los efectos prácticos, trajes, marionetas y locaciones reales en vez de una pantalla verde. Eso te sumerge aun más en la peli y le da un efecto visual impresionante.

Tiene mucha acción, un excelentemente integrado sentido del humor y unos pasajes emotivos preciosos, que si bien son pocos, te llevan profundo en lo que la saga ha marcado anteriormente.

La recomiendo muchísimo, y estoy seguro que Abrams no decepciona a los fans con este producto. La peli se ve que tiene mucho cariño y empeño puesto en su realización.

Saludos a todos y cuídense mucho de los spoilers, que definitivamente son de arruinar la experiencia.

Esta tarde en Barcelona, en el Museu d'Arqueologia de Catalunya, el evento "STAR WARS, UNA MITOLOGIA MODERNA".

El aforo ya está completo y hay lista de espera, pero... podeis pasar otro día y ver la micro-expo que he montado:









QUE LA FUEZA OS ACOMPAÑE A TODOS! Hoy fiesta, mañana estreno, pasada resaca galáctica...

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Joder, qué putada, no sé qué decirte tío. No me hagas ni caso que yo muchas veces no me entero de lo que veo. Igual me equivoco...

jajajaja . Vale, hare como que no te has enterado y me engañare a mi mismo xD

vamos, que al final lo peor de la película es Boyega, yo ya me lo esperaba, no tenia ninguna esperanza en el, después de ver sus películas esta claro, espero que no sea un personaje nada cansino

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vamos, que al final lo peor de la película es Boyega, yo ya me lo esperaba, no tenia ninguna esperanza en el, después de ver sus películas esta claro, espero que no sea un personaje nada cansino

Se pasa de gracioso. Al principio está bien, pero al final ya cansa un poco.

Alguna opinion de alguien que la haya visto en 3D?

Por cierto soy el unico (el rarito) que la que mas le gusta de todas es el Retorno del Jedi?

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El problema es que hay gente que ve el spoiler, pincha (porque sucumben al lado oscuro y quieren verlo) y luego se quejan pidiendo que lo pongais en el privado. Cuando a esa persona nadie le ha obligado a pinchar el spoiler. Si lo ha visto es porque ha querido

La mayoria de los spoilers son cosas que ya se sabian hace medio año. Por eso Abrams se puso nervioso en verano y dijo:

"Hay que adelantar el estreno del film a este verano, porque se está filtrando todo".

El que lo filtró, era alguien de dentro del rodaje, porque todo era cierto.

Pues ya no está David Prowse para echarle la culpa.

Yo ya me enteré, pinché un spoiler, de algo dramático que ya me olía. Pero vamos, que no impedirá que la disfrute de igual manera.

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Se pasa de gracioso. Al principio está bien, pero al final ya cansa un poco.

la semana que viene la tengo que ver, esta semana seguro que los cines están petados, espero que no me canse demasiado

Me uno al hilo a la espera de ver la pelicula durante las Navidades.

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Alguna opinion de alguien que la haya visto en 3D?

Por cierto soy el unico (el rarito) que la que mas le gusta de todas es el Retorno del Jedi?

Yo el 3D lo noté muy normal, vamos que en 2D no creo que se pierda mucho.
Respecto a TROTJ a mí me gusta muchísimo, pero no por delante del episodio V. La pongo por encima de la original en cuanto a lo que disfruto de la primera parte en Tatooine, la batalla de Endor y el duelo en la estrella de la muerte. Además es la primera película que recuerdo haber visto en el cine.

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Yo el 3D lo noté muy normal, vamos que en 2D no creo que se pierda mucho.
Respecto a TROTJ a mí me gusta muchísimo, pero no por delante del episodio V. La pongo por encima de la original en cuanto a lo que disfruto de la primera parte en Tatooine y la batalla de sensor y el duelo en la estrella de la muerte. Además es la primera película que recuerdo haber visto en el cine.

Gracias David por tu opinion.

Pues vaya esperaba algo mas currado el 3D que creo que es de las pocas sagas/peliculas donde se le puede sacar mejor partido

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Además es la primera película que recuerdo haber visto en el cine.

El Retorno del Jedi tiene muchas veces ese efecto cuando se ha visto de niño. Igual ocurre con La última cruzada, y en este caso es más acusado porque eran 8 años entre la 1a y la 3a. Y lo mismo con T2 que con T1. Ver de niño, en el cine, una parte 2,3 o lo que sea de una saga, tiene un efecto muy potente.

Y de todas las que he dicho sólo T2 tiene una consideración crítica, y popular, similar o veces por encima, a la de la 1a parte de una saga.

Con El Señor de los Anillos no creo que ocurra tanto porque sólo pasaron 2 años entre el estreno de la 1a y la 3a y con Harry Potter ocurre que la saga fue perdiendo tono infantil conforme avanzaban las películas.

Synch

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Gracias David por tu opinion.

Pues vaya esperaba algo mas currado el 3D que creo que es de las pocas sagas/peliculas donde se le puede sacar mejor partido

Si pero como ya dije por aqui era previsible ya que se rodo en fotografico y no en digital. Con lo cual es una conversion al 3D. Y ya sabemos que las conversiones y lo que no es nativo....

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Si pero como ya dije por aqui era previsible ya que se rodo en fotografico y no en digital. Con lo cual es una conversion al 3D. Y ya sabemos que las conversiones y lo que no es nativo....

No sabia ese dato myst, gracias por la aclaración.

Aquí ando por el hilo y sin pinchar en Spoiler mamones, que a veces tengo tentaciones de ver lo que ponéis , dentro de una horas voy a verla aquí en Sevilla

Empezamos:

Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: n/a 0.0%
+ Foreign: $14,100,000 100.0%
= Worldwide: $14,100,000

http://variety.com/2015/film/box-off...go-1201664109/

‘Star Wars: The Force Awakens’ Sales Break Fandango’s All-Time Record

“Star Wars: The Force Awakens” hasn’t even opened yet and the science-fiction fantasy has already sold more tickets than any other film in history on Fandango.

The seventh film in the hit franchise previously shattered pre-sales records, but now the online ticketer reports that it has sold more tickets than any film has moved during its entire theatrical run.

To earn the record, “The Force Awakens” moved past “Jurassic World.” The rest of the top five biggest sellers are “The Hunger Games: Catching Fire,” “Avengers: Age of Ultron,” and “The Hunger Games.”

Fandango did not release the total number of tickets sold, but sources tell Variety that “The Force Awakens” has already generated more than $100 million in pre-sales and that seats have been purchased into 2016. Industry analysts believe that “The Force Awakens” will break “Jurassic World’s” record $208.4 million opening to become the biggest debut in history.

Worried that talk of packed houses might dissuade people from hitting theaters, Disney stressed that there are still seats available when “The Force Awakens” opens on Thursday.

“We are obviously very encouraged by the record-breaking presales for ‘Star Wars: The Force Awakens,'” Dave Hollis, Disney’s distribution chief said in a statement. “But there are literally millions of tickets available for this weekend, and exhibitors have a lot of flexibility in terms of capacity and increasing the number of shows based on demand.”

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Forecast: 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens'... Will Box Office Records Feel the Force?

Star Wars: The Force Awakens has finally arrived. Audiences across the globe now have a chance to experience the first Star Wars film in over ten years and anticipation couldn't be higher. Star Wars changed movies forever when the saga began back in 1977 and this newest installment enters a marketplace where the industry itself has changed, several times over, in the 38 years since we all began to feel the Force.

The film landed on Wednesday in 12 international markets, generating $14.1 million including $5.2 million in France, $2 million in Italy and another $1.7 million in Sweden. Force Awakens arrives in 32 more international markets today, including Germany, UK, Russia, Australia, Korea, Argentina, Brazil and Mexico with Japan and Spain opening day-and-date with the U.S. release on Friday.

As for that U.S. release and the world market overall, things have even changed since 2009, the last time Christmas Day fell on a Friday and a film called Avatar began its journey to becoming the highest grossing domestic and worldwide release of all time. The Force Awakens aims to best both those records and then some. Let's take a look at its chances.

The Force Awakens was already breaking records before a single frame was exhibited. Disney originally estimated it would open in 3,900 theaters, that total has since jumped to 4,134, a record number of theaters for a December opening. It has also broken advanced ticket sales with $100+ million (approximately $55 million of that attributed to the film's opening weekend), besting the $25 million set by previous record holder The Dark Knight Rises in 2012. Online ticketing service Fandango.com, which experienced technical difficulties as soon as advanced tickets went on sale, is reporting record ticket sales, with Force Awakens breaking Fandango's record for the most tickets sold for any film during its entire theatrical run.

Records such as these offer a glimpse at what's to come, as we put under the microscope an unprecedented release that's nearly impossible to predict. You'll need more than two hands to count the number of records Force Awakens is looking to break as the domestic opening weekend record of $208.8 million, set earlier this year by Jurassic World, is only one of them. Here are a few to consider:

Largest Thursday Preshow: $43.5 million (Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2*)
Largest Friday, Opening Day, Single Day: $91 million (Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2)
Largest Saturday: $69.6 million (Jurassic World)
Largest Sunday: $57.2 million (Jurassic World)
December Single Day: $37.13 million (The Hobbit An Unexpected Journey)
December Opening Weekend: $84.62 million (The Hobbit An Unexpected Journey)
Domestic Opening Weekend: $208.8 million (Jurassic World)
International Opening Weekend: $316.1 million (Jurassic World)
Global Opening Weekend: $524.9 million (Jurassic World)
Highest Per Theater Average (Wide Opening): $48,855 / 4,274 theaters (Jurassic World)
Top Opening Weekend for PG-13 Rated Film: $208.8 million (Jurassic World)
Top Holiday Opening Weekend**: $158 million (The Hunger Games: Catching Fire)
#1 Movie Weekend Market Share: 84.5% of Top 12 (Avengers: Age of Ultron)
Biggest Weekend Overall (Top 12 Gross): $266 million (June 12-14, 2015)
Biggest December Weekend (Top 12 Gross): $259.9 million (Dec 25-27, 2009)
Fastest to $100 Million: 2 Days (Jurassic World)
* Midnight only
** Holiday is defined as the first Friday in November through New Year's week or weekend.
Many of these records come into consideration when predicting the film's opening weekend, beginning with the Thursday preshow number, a number that has changed meaning over the last several years. As noted above, when Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 broke the record with $43.5 million from 3,800 theaters at midnight screenings, they were just that, midnight screenings. The Force Awakens, however, will begin screening at 7 PM on Thursday in a large fraction of its 4,134 opening weekend theaters. Midnight showings accounted for nearly 48% of Deathly Hallows 2's record opening day of $91 million and with theaters already selling out Thursday screenings of Force Awakens, it stands to reason that record will fall. Fan fervor over Star Wars is no less than the excitement for that final Harry Potter film.

So how big will Friday be? For starters, no film has ever made $100 million in a single day. For Force Awakens this seems like a possibility with Thursday preshows counting for Friday's number. Thursday preshows for Jurassic World brought in a mere $18.5 million from 3,229 theaters, which resulted in an $81.9 million opening day. Comparatively, Avengers: Age of Ultron grossed $84.4 million on its first Friday, which included $27.6 million from Thursday screenings, but its 33% drop on Saturday sunk its chances at a $200+ million opening weekend. Jurassic World earned its opening weekend record by holding on very well over the following days.

Let's say for a second Force Awakens becomes the first film to bring in $100 million on Friday. If it follows Jurassic World's Saturday and Sunday drops (15% and 17.9% respectively) we're looking at a $254.7 million weekend. If we performed the same calculations based on Age of Ultron's weekend drops (33% and 11%) we're looking at a $226.5 million opening. Both break the current opening weekend record as well as the per theater record, a record that is significant.

December has never had a film open higher than $100 million, or a single day gross higher than $37.1 million for that matter. This is the time of year where people are spending time with families as they take time off work and spend time with their children on break from school. The opportunity to see a new movie is spread out over time, eliminating the summertime "need" to see a movie on opening weekend. No matter how big Star Wars opens, it's these factors that suggest it is almost guaranteed to have great legs, just as Avatar did in 2009 when it opened on the same weekend and dropped a mere 1.8% over Christmas weekend. Right now only one fifth of all schools are on break while next weekend we're looking at 100% of all children being out of school. This, along with holiday travel and last second shopping, could result in slightly softer numbers for this weekend than had the film opened during the summer months.

If you're looking for another reason as to why Star Wars may not break Jurassic World's domestic opening record you need look no further than the current, monthly record holders. Looking at all twelve months, American Sniper shows the largest percent increase over the previous record holder as its $89.2 million opening was a 115% increase over Ride Along. Should Force Awakens match that increase as it relate's to The Hobbit's December record you're looking at a $181.9 million weekend. In fact, only three times has a monthly record been broken by a percentage that would give Force Awakens the record:

January '97: Star Wars (Special Edition) - $35.9M opening, 250.6% increase over From Dusk Till Dawn
July '91: Terminator 2: Judgment Day - $31.7M opening, 157.6% increase over European Vacation
August '01: Rush Hour 2 - $67.4M opening, 152.6% increase over The Sixth Sense
In short, it's difficult to not only break records, but even more difficult to break records by a large margin. And yet, Star Wars: The Force Awakens may very well be the most anticipated film of all-time and given the nature of our "give it to me now" culture, predicting an opening weekend record doesn't seem risky or difficult. Predicting just how big it will be is a different story.

Working in the film's favor is the fact it will be playing in over 3,300 3D locations, on a record 392 IMAX screens, on 451 Premium Large Format screens and in 146 D-Box locations. The higher ticket prices for all of these locations along with the swath of positive reviews (just in case you were on the fence) only work to the film's benefit, especially when it comes to predicting how much it will make per theater.

The $48,855 per theater record set by Jurassic World is probably the most significant number we have to work with. Jurassic World opened in 4,274 theaters and the fact Star Wars is opening in 140 fewer already helps up that average. To break the record Force Awakens will need to average over $50,510 per theater, we're predicting a $55,899 average for a record-breaking $231 million opening. This number is based on a $95M Friday, $71.2M Saturday (25% drop) and $64.8M Sunday (9% drop). The biggest difficulty, making for what will be the largest margin of error, is just how many screens it will be playing on in each of those theaters and how many times per screen.

Beyond opening weekend, the average multipliers in 2014 and 2015 were 3.15 and 3.01 respectively. For films opening in 4,000+ theaters that drops to 2.91 for 2014 and 2.57 in 2015. However, the average multiplier for the top opening weekends of all-time climbs to 3.24 and if you look at the two films that opened over $200 million, Jurassic World and The Avengers have 3.12 and 3.01 multipliers, which sets something of a baseline. All things considered a 3-3.5 times multiplier seems a safe approximation. This would put the overall domestic gross at $693-808.5 million, which means Avatar's all-time domestic record of $760.5 million is in some jeopardy.

Internationally it's tough to predict, though Disney isn't holding back, going day-and-date in all major international territories other than China, where the film opens on January 9. To that point, Jurassic World opened with a record $316.1 million internationally, which included over $99 million from China. However, the previous record holder was Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2 and it didn't open in China until a couple weeks after its initial release and it managed a $314 million opening internationally. So go ahead and expect a record breaking opening internationally and across the globe with anywhere from $575-650 million worldwide.

The weekend isn't all Star Wars, though you'd be hard-pressed to argue otherwise. Fox is releasing Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Road Chip into approximately 3,600 theaters and Universal brings the Tina Fey and Amy Poehler comedy Sisters to 2,900+ theaters. Neither is likely to make too much of an impression on the box office, though the more they make the more the overall weekend tally grows and that $266 million opening weekend record for the top twelve is challenged.

Road Chip is likely to take the #2 spot, though this is a franchise that stumbled a bit with Alvin and the Chipmunks: Chipwrecked back in 2011 as it's opening weekend dropped 52% compared to its predecessor. With a large number of animated films having been released recently there's hardly any pent up demand for more animated antics, at least not from a franchise that appears to be on life support. Another 52% drop would see the film bringing in $11 million, but we'll go a bit higher at $12.6 million in the name of holiday cheer.

Sisters is a little more difficult. When Jurassic World broke the record earlier this year Spy still managed $15.6 million opposite it in its second weekend, proving there is room for comedy opposite the big, bad blockbuster. Fey and Poehler have proven a strong comedic duo with Baby Mama opening with $17.4 million back in 2008, but the lack of competition makes for a difficult comparison with that title. Otherwise, Fey has managed to stay in the spotlight, the duo was wonderful at the Golden Globes in recent years and reviews of Sisters have been solid, but an opening around $7 million still seems most likely.

As for the rest of the top ten, Star Wars captures such a wide breadth of the movie-going audience its likely most will fall a bit sharper than the competition did when The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey set the previous December opening record in 2012. However, like with the Star Wars prediction, it's tough to nail down exactly how this weekend will shake out. That said, weekend predictions are below.

Star Wars: The Force Awakens (4,134 theaters) - $231,090,000
Alvin and the Chipmunks The Road Chip (3,600 theaters*) - $12,600,000
Sisters (2,900 theaters*) - $7,060,000
The Good Dinosaur - $6,400,000
Creed - $5,570,000
The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 2 - $5,480,000
In the Heart of the Sea - $5,310,000
Krampus - $4,040,000
The Night Before - $2,230,000
Spectre - $2,100,000