Tema: Ryse: Son of Rome

Pues yo no quiero ser agorer pero creo que tiene un apartado técnico muy bueno pero jugablemente va a ser muy pesado.

En estos juegos hack´n slash es complicado tocar la tecla adecuada jugablemente para que los combos no te abrumen o te parezcan demasiado simples.

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Pues yo no quiero ser agorer pero creo que tiene un apartado técnico muy bueno pero jugablemente va a ser muy pesado.

En estos juegos hack´n slash es complicado tocar la tecla adecuada jugablemente para que los combos no te abrumen o te parezcan demasiado simples.

Crytek: "Ryse es un título de combates. No es un hack 'n slash"

El prometedor título de Crytek para Xbox One, Ryse: Son of Rome, continúa dejando titulares en torno a su prometedora propuesta. En esta ocasión, el presidente del estudio, Cevat Yerli, ha querido incidir sobre la conveniencia o no de enmarcar al título dentro del género del hack'n slash.

"No me gusta el término del hack'n slash", reconocía en una entrevista al medio británico CVG. "Nuestro juego es un título de combates. Es sin duda tan accesible como otro del género, pero el término hack and slash, para mí, está más relacionado con los monstruos y la fantasía. En los juegos de combates tienes humanos contra humanos, normalmente", explicaba.

En este sentido, el directivo ha afirmado querer contar una historia más allá de la simple lucha. "Elegimos un juego de combate ya que añade pegada al viaje emocional que habíamos creado", comentaba. "Pero también es una oportunidad para nosotros de poner nuestro punto de vista y decir 'esto es lo que Crytek haríamos en un combate y cómo íbamos a retratar, cortar, hacer la captura de movimientos... Creo que hemos encontrado un estilo que podría ser interesante para el futuro", afirmaba.

http://www.3djuegos.com/noticia/1373...f-rome/crytek/

Es probable que muchos juegos de inicio de generación parezcan una continuación de lo que ya hay con las consolas actuales. Hay que darles unos años para que mejoren el rendimiento.

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Crytek: "Ryse es un título de combates. No es un hack 'n slash"

El prometedor título de Crytek para Xbox One, Ryse: Son of Rome, continúa dejando titulares en torno a su prometedora propuesta. En esta ocasión, el presidente del estudio, Cevat Yerli, ha querido incidir sobre la conveniencia o no de enmarcar al título dentro del género del hack'n slash.

"No me gusta el término del hack'n slash", reconocía en una entrevista al medio británico CVG. "Nuestro juego es un título de combates. Es sin duda tan accesible como otro del género, pero el término hack and slash, para mí, está más relacionado con los monstruos y la fantasía. En los juegos de combates tienes humanos contra humanos, normalmente", explicaba.

En este sentido, el directivo ha afirmado querer contar una historia más allá de la simple lucha. "Elegimos un juego de combate ya que añade pegada al viaje emocional que habíamos creado", comentaba. "Pero también es una oportunidad para nosotros de poner nuestro punto de vista y decir 'esto es lo que Crytek haríamos en un combate y cómo íbamos a retratar, cortar, hacer la captura de movimientos... Creo que hemos encontrado un estilo que podría ser interesante para el futuro", afirmaba.

http://www.3djuegos.com/noticia/1373...f-rome/crytek/

Un Hack n slash no concierne a juegos de fantasía y de monstruos, por mucho que desde Crytek quieran ser novedosos.

De hecho ese creo que será uno de sus contras, que en un Dinasty Warriors acabas al tiempo aburrido de luchar contra enemigos tan parecidos.

Pero bueno, quién sabe. A mi de primeras es lo que digo, creo que para que estos juegos no aburran han de ofrecer una jugabilidad tremendamente buena y algo que te haga querer seguir aporreando botones.

Story Trailer

Tenía pensado pillarlo baratito de segunda mano pero cada vez es mas difícil no pillarlo de lanzamiento!!!!

Ryse Comic

http://www.xbox.com/es-ES/xbox-one/g.../comic/issue1/

http://www.xbox.com/es-ES/xbox-one/g.../comic/issue2/

Rome is Power!

Esto va a ser un juegazo. Con sus QTES y todo lo que queramos, pero al final va a ser un título imprescindible de la nueva máquina de Microsoft.

Showing Brutal Multiplayer and God Selection Menu
by Giuseppe Nelva Oct 19th 2013 6:34AM @abriael
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Ryse: Son of Rome is being demonstrated around the world during the Area One events, and two new clips just surfaced from the one held in Chicago.
Both videos are courtesy of YouTube user C Money, and focus on multiplayer gameplay. The first shows a healthy ration of slaughtering, while the second showcases the splash screen while waiting for matching, including some spectacular shots of the arena and the menu that lets you select your deity of choice (from whom you get special powers).

La leyenda de Damocles:

Me están gustando mucho los gameplays que hay por la red, a ver si se animan y ponen un escenario de Tarraco o Augusta Emerita, jejeeje o que salgan algunos iberos (atención dlc de hispania jejejeje).

Pues yo que he jugado a muchos hack n´slash, por mucho que Crytek se empeñe en decir que no lo es, y la verdad es que quitando que tiene un apartado técnico francamente sorprendente tanto por movimientos como por iluminación y texturizado, cuantos más vídeos sigo viendo, la jugabilidad me sigue pareciendo que, una vez acostumbrado a lo que vemos en pantalla, acabará siendo un poco rollo o muy rollo.

Microsoft desvela las web series de Ryse

Se ha dado a conocer, vía Microsoft, que Ryse: Son of Rome tendrá una web serie que acompañará la promoción y la historia de uno de los juegos exclusivos de XBOX One.

A través de la web oficial de XBOX, Microsoft ha desvelado la publicación futura de una nueva web serie de uno de sus juegos exclusivos, Ryse: Son of Rome. De este modo, este título de Crytek se auna a una tendencia promocional que se viene extendiendo desde hace años, una tendencia realmente agradable y que ha dado buenos resultados.



Aunque esta imagen ha sido desvelada por varios medios, incluido Polygon, quien ha promovido esta noticia, a través de la web no se ha conseguido localizar lo que podría haber sido una filtración. Catalogada por ERSB con contenidos violentos y desnudos parciales, parece que esta producción televisiva nos introducirá en la historia y ambientación que desarrollará este esperado título de acción. Tendremos que esperar para conocer más detalles.

Ryse: Son of Rome, verá la luz en exclusiva para XBOX One el próximo 22 de Noviembre

http://soloxboxone.com/2013/10/micro...eries-de-ryse/

A mi me parece muy cinematico a priori, y con una jugabilidad tipica, ahora bien, si tienes modo online, creo que tendre que esperar a probarlo, porque un qte o un juego limitado online no funcionaria jamas de los jamases, con lo cual me reservo opinion.

Como ya he mantenido, para mi lo que prima es la jugabilidad, no voy a decir segun quien publique el juego o la plataforma que lo importante son los graficos o la jugabilidad a conveniencia.

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A mi me parece muy cinematico a priori, y con una jugabilidad tipica, ahora bien, si tienes modo online, creo que tendre que esperar a probarlo, porque un qte o un juego limitado online no funcionaria jamas de los jamases, con lo cual me reservo opinion.

Como ya he mantenido, para mi lo que prima es la jugabilidad, no voy a decir segun quien publique el juego o la plataforma que lo importante son los graficos o la jugabilidad a conveniencia.

Es que en un juego así tiene que ir todo de la mano. Si la jugabilidad está muy bien pero y ya no digo técnicamente pero tiene caídas sobe todo de framerate, te cargas la jugabilidad.

Si es a la inversa, si tienes un apartado técnico bueno, en este caso parece que muy bueno, no hay caídas de frames y demás pero la jugabilidad no es buena, es lo que comentaba, jugarás unos días, te aburrirá y al final lo pondrás sólo para enseñárselo a tus amigos y que alucinen.

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y al final lo pondrás sólo para enseñárselo a tus amigos y que alucinen.

Juegos de esos que solo sirven para fardar siempre han existido y siempre existiran, el peor ejemplo es cuando se pusieron de moda los FMVs, muchos eran pesimos pero la gente flipaba a ver basicamente un video...

Aparte, yo tambien suelo ser muy critico con los juegos por railes, de hecho grandes sagas no son mas que shooters pasilleros, y Ryse parece que ira mucho por railes, ahora bien, si luego consiguen que la experiencia mole, pues puede estar bien.

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Juegos de esos que solo sirven para fardar siempre han existido y siempre existiran, el peor ejemplo es cuando se pusieron de moda los FMVs, muchos eran pesimos pero la gente flipaba a ver basicamente un video...

Aparte, yo tambien suelo ser muy critico con los juegos por railes, de hecho grandes sagas no son mas que shooters pasilleros, y Ryse parece que ira mucho por railes, ahora bien, si luego consiguen que la experiencia mole, pues puede estar bien.

Bueno, yo en este caso pondré el ejemplo del Assassin´s Creed, del primero. Era un juego que al cabo de unas horas era repetitivo, para muchos, muy repetitivo pero era el típico que le ponías a un colega y para un rato alucinaba....A mi aún así, aunque sé que es muy repetitivo, me gustaba mucho darme una vuelta por las ciudades, fijarme en sus mil y un detalles buenos y disfrutarlo de esa manera, pero tampoco quería(obligaba) que los demás lo vieran de la misma manera que yo, como ocurre con mucha gente, que parece que obligan a los demás a pensar como ellos lo hacen sobre lo que les gusta y lo que no.

Seguramente yo disfrutaría bastante de ese Ryse por ese apartado técnico porque me gusta el modelaje en 3D y dibujar pero decir de ante mano que es un -must have- me recuerda eso de que (volviendo a poner otro ejemplo) el Dante Inferno iba a destronar al God of War.

Dantes Inferno no podia destronar a God of War, porque al pobre juego le cayo la del pulpo jeje.

Yo independientemente de todo me pillare el Ryse, espero que no haya que dedicarle mucho tiempo, porque busco algo efectista y para pasar el rato, para involucrarme a saco ya tengo BF4.

PS AC1 era un poco aburrido, se hacia pesado a la cuarta mision, buff...

Crytek: the next generation
Digital Foundry talks CryEngine, PlayStation 4, Xbox One and Ryse with Cevat Yerli.





By Richard Leadbetter Published Saturday, 26 October 2013


In our graphics cards tests, there's one game that's our go-to title when carrying out gameplay performance analysis: Crysis 3. Crytek's last game is a technological showcase: one of the very few games built with next-gen development in mind, and the best stress test for the latest AMD, Nvidia and Intel GPU technologies. With the next-gen console zero-hour approaching, we reached out to Crytek to talk tech - to discuss how their multi-platform engine was ported onto next-gen, what the company view was of the new Sony and Microsoft architecture, and of course to sneak in a few questions about Ryse.

There's some interesting and dare we say it controversial stuff here. Image quality purists won't be too happy to see another developer signalling the death of multi-sampling anti-aliasing in favour of temporal and post-process alternatives, while a great many core gamers won't be ecstatic with the reasoning on the firm's line on 30fps as the preferred standard for console gameplay. And yes, we have an Xbox One developer telling us that multi-platform releases won't be that much different between the two next-gen consoles - a line of argument that doesn't go down very well with some at the best of times.

Regardless though, across the range of questions, there's some fascinating new information here - how the move from PowerPC architecture to x86 radically changes the way that developers code and optimise their games, a frank assessment of the raw CPU power of the new consoles, Xbox One's ESRAM and audio hardware, and Crytek's aim to bring CG-quality visuals to real-time rendering.

But before we dive in, a bit of background is required. Interviews tend to take three different forms - face-to-face, on the phone or, as is the case here, an email Q&A. The good news is that Cevat Yerli himself - founder, CEO and president of Crytek - took point on tackling our questions. The not-so-good news is that it took quite some time for the answers to return, hence our referring to CryEngine 3 and its successor when it was subsequently revealed at Gamescom that they are one and the same (and that the numbering has gone), before Microsoft announced that Ryse was running at sub-native 1080p resolution, and a long time before Yerli's DICE 2013 presentation where he revealed a raft of new visual upgrades for the firm's Xbox One launch title. It also means that our key follow-up question - specifically on how Crytek has quantified the performance differential between the two next-gen consoles bearing in mind the relative GPU specs - still remains unanswered, despite a lot of chasing.

Ryse is important as our first look at how CryEngine operates on the next-gen console, but this interview is more focused on how Crytek has managed the transition of one of the most advanced multi-platform engines onto the new hardware, and what we can expect from the technology in the future. And as for a fully maxed-out Crysis trilogy on next-gen console? Unfortunately, much as we would love for it to happen, Crytek isn't talking...
"With DX11 and 64-bit support being a core part of the engine, the transition to the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 was quite straightforward and the new consoles turned out to meet our technical expectations."



Gamescom 2013. CryEngine 3 is no more. Now there is just the numberless CryEngine. And this is what it can do on next-gen systems.


Digital Foundry: Crytek is at the bleeding edge of rendering tech and your demands from hardware are very high, so how satisfied are you with the final designs of the Xbox One and PlayStation 4?

Cevat Yerli: Both consoles have a DX 11.1+ capable GPU with full compute shader support which allows us to come up with new creative rendering techniques that were not possible before. The GPUs are very efficient in performing math operations and the CPUs, in contrast to the previous PowerPC-based architectures, have standard PC features like out-of-order execution and branch prediction. All this reduces the need for micro-optimisation and allows us to focus more on the high-level algorithms which is usually the more rewarding part of development. We are also looking forward to seeing what the PlayStation 4 will offer in regards to online compute capacities, and the strategy rolled out for Xbox One cloud support is certainly going to be very interesting in terms of compute power for next-gen games. I also think Microsoft's decision to include Kinect as standard is a positive one, as it avoids fragmenting the market and allows developers to treat its functionality as a given.

Digital Foundry: You were very vocal in the past about the need for a lot of memory in the next-gen hardware. At the time, your request for 8GB seemed crazy, but it actually happened! Are you happy with the amount of memory available, even factoring in the rather large system reservations?

Cevat Yerli: The available memory is a massive improvement compared to the less than 512MB that we had before and makes our life a lot easier. However, despite our improved streaming system, we got it filled up quite easily and had to eventually work on optimising asset sizes.

Digital Foundry: You designed CryEngine 3 with scalability in mind - you said it was "next-gen ready". Now next-gen hardware is here, to what extent were you successful? Did CE3 transfer as easily as you anticipated onto the new consoles?
Cevat Yerli: With DX11 and 64-bit support being a core part of the engine, the transition to the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 was quite straightforward and the new consoles turned out to meet our technical expectations. To our knowledge, at this year's E3 Ryse was the only next-gen game on show that was running on a commercially licensable engine. We felt that justified our statement from a few years ago that CryEngine was next-gen ready.

Digital Foundry: Can you talk about the process of moving the engine across to the new consoles - what are the challenges and the opportunities offered by the Xbox One and the PlayStation 4 architectures?

Cevat Yerli: The transition to the new generation is going smoothly, and although the workflow and tools are in their early stages, they are better at this point than they were in the early lifecycle of the last generation. Due to the improved specs and familiar PC-style development environment, developers have received a welcome overall improvement. This has been really beneficial, and has freed us up to spend a lot more time on just getting the best out of the system.

Digital Foundry: On the face of it the bigger GPU and wider bandwidth of the PlayStation 4 makes it far more powerful than the Xbox One. Yet developers like John Carmack - and even PC benchmarks on equivalent hardware - suggest that the two platforms may be closer than the specs suggest. What's your assessment?

Cevat Yerli: Both next-gen platforms have excellent specs and provide wins against each other in a variety of areas. But, in essence, both of them are going to run next-generation games in more or less the same quality due to the diminishing returns of optimising for these little differences. That being said, platform-exclusive titles might be able to take advantage of these slight variations on both Xbox One and PlayStation 4.
"GPU compute is definitely the future. The CPU performance is better than last-gen but not by a huge margin, the GPU on the other hand is a really sizeable improvement."



Crysis 3 can run just fine at 720p30 on Intel integrated graphics and the lowest settings, but to max out the quality settings and run at a locked 2560x1440, we needed three Titans in SLI configuration, and even then we get the odd dropped frame. 4K was off the table, even on this ultimate gaming PC. We only wish we could show you the full video...


Digital Foundry: What's your take on Sony's emphasis on PS4 GPU compute? In multi-platform projects is it likely to be explored?

Cevat Yerli: GPU compute is definitely the future. The CPU performance is better than last-gen but not by a huge margin, the GPU on the other hand is a really sizeable improvement. If the task is suited to it, moving to the GPU can be an incredible performance win. However, this is taking away performance from the traditional graphics pipeline so there is a limit to what you can move to the GPU. As for the broader multi-platform question, supporting GPU compute isn't really much more difficult than supporting multi-platform rendering, so it's certainly something we'll be using more and more on all platforms.

Digital Foundry: If we look at AMD Jaguar in purely PC terms, we're essentially looking at two low-power laptop/mobile CPUs stuck together. CryEngine 3 will give any PC CPU a thorough workout - what is your assessment of the processing power you have available in next-gen console? Would you have preferred fewer cores and higher clock-speeds?

Cevat Yerli: An infinitely fast single-core CPU running the game single-threaded would obviously make things much simpler. However, these days have long since gone and engines are required to scale well across multiple CPU cores for games to run fast at high quality; that is, they need to be able to execute multiple jobs concurrently without introducing significant wait time and synchronisation cost. CE3 has been doing well in that regard and further improved over time and for Ryse in particular. Because of that a lower CPU clock rate is acceptable as long as there are enough cores available to offload work through our job system.

Digital Foundry: Crysis 3 performs admirably on AMD's eight-core FX CPUs. Do you feel that the presence of AMD hardware in the next-gen consoles will help AMD in PC gaming, where its CPUs have struggled in most games compared to Intel?

Cevat Yerli: AMD's involvement in next-gen consoles will certainly bring some improved compatibility for PC gaming, as a lot of optimisations will go into console development that will benefit AMD-based PC gaming architectures. But I believe those compatibility improvements will still have a limited effect.

Digital Foundry: You've previously talked about how supporting Xbox 360 and PS3 was holding back everything that Crysis 3 could have been. Ryse is an XO exclusive, meaning no such restrictions - what are the key technological advancements this enables?

Cevat Yerli: Next-gen console gamers will now experience high-end PC quality gaming, with higher resolutions, more complex assets, and better rendering techniques that all result in richer, more immersive gaming experiences. One key aspect is that having DX11-class consoles and better hardware allows us to set a new baseline for really high-end content development, and we can discard older generation restrictions. We're very excited about this particular aspect of the new consoles.

Digital Foundry: Xbox One is DX11-based. How useful was your CryEngine 3 DX11 work on PC in giving you a head start on XO development?

Cevat Yerli: The core technologies of the next generation are DX11 and 64-bit. CryEngine has been fully supporting both since Crysis 2. Because of that, getting the first version of Ryse running on early Xbox One kits was relatively easy and took us less than a week of focused work. Again, the fact Ryse was probably the only next-gen game running on a commercially licensable engine at E3 2013 is proof of how easy it was to use CryEngine was for the next generation.
"MSAA is quickly getting bandwidth-bound and thus expensive. With a deferred shading based renderer the bandwidth consumption is getting prohibitively high."



Crytek put together this behind-the-scenes video showcasing some of the character-based innovations added to CryEngine for Ryse on Xbox One.


Digital Foundry: There were hopes that next-gen console would target 60fps - something John Carmack mentioned in his QuakeCon keynote this year. Can you talk us through the thinking behind Ryse as a 30fps game?

Cevat Yerli: Developers always have to choose whether they go for 60 or 30fps, depending on the type of game and complexity of the project. With Ryse, we wanted to go for a very emotional experience with complex and dramatic lighting, high fidelity environments, and rich characters and character animations. So 30fps was our choice, and we believe that most developers will go for richer worlds at 30 frames per second rather than 60fps - which would call for compromises, as 60fps demands twice the amount of compute rendering speed. 30fps is a standard that is above, for example, what most cinemas use for showing films. Early demos with higher frame-rate experiences have shown that gamers and viewers have a mixed opinion about its perceived quality - for example, how 48fps cinema experiences were received. So it's both a production design choice as well as user research.

Digital Foundry: What is your experience with the ESRAM on Xbox One? How do you utilise it in Ryse? Is 32MB really enough for the high-bandwidth rendering elements you'd want to utilise? How important is allocating graphics between DDR3 and ESRAM for Xbox One development?

Cevat Yerli: We put our most accessed render targets like the G-Buffer targets into ESRAM. Writing to ESRAM yields a considerable speed-up. While 32MB may not be enough to use something like MSAA to the fullest, with a smart memory management strategy it is possible to deal with that.

Digital Foundry: Can we expect to see any new CE3 features in Ryse that we've not seen before in the Crysis games?

Cevat Yerli: We have many new features in Ryse. On the rendering side the main focus was on moving to more physically-based paradigms but we have a lot of improvements for animation and physics as well. For example, all the cloth and armour parts are moving dynamically but we can also pre-bake complex simulations now and replay them in real-time.

Digital Foundry: The Xbox One has dedicated audio processing hardware that is not present in PS4 or PC. How do you utilise it in Ryse?

Cevat Yerli: Essentially the hardware is performing calculations on audio data, handling the decode of audio that is encoded in XMA, Microsoft's proprietary, designed-for-game-audio, encode/decode compression algorithm. It takes weight off the main processing cores by using this optimised processor, which is approximately twice as powerful as the 360's, which means we can have higher voice counts, that is more sounds playing simultaneously. Also it supports the 7.1 surround sound architecture, which vastly improves the 3D localisation of sounds and the immersive audio environments we have created for Ryse.

Digital Foundry: Xbox One has its data move engines, dedicated audio hardware etc that should free up CPU resources. Are we seeing a situation almost like the reverse of 360/PS3 - this time with Sony having less CPU resource but more GPU power?

Cevat Yerli: Xbox One's move engine has proven to be quite useful to us by accelerating streaming of texture data, etc. How well that fares overall and compares to the prowess of PS4's compute engines remains to be seen and likely depends on the specific type of game you want to build.

Digital Foundry: Very few - if any - of the next-gen games we've seen target multi-sampling anti-aliasing. What's your solution for Ryse? Do you think that MSAA is now a thing of the past in console game development?

Cevat Yerli: MSAA is quickly getting bandwidth-bound and thus expensive. With a deferred shading based renderer the bandwidth consumption is getting prohibitively high. For Ryse we developed our custom SMAA 1TX, in essence it is a combo of morphological AA with smarter temporal anti-aliasing. It's a new robust and fairly efficient technique which we shared some details about at Siggraph this year. It's a solution which deals with any signal input changes in order to smooth out potential shimmering during movement, while masking out any potential ghosting, and together with shading aliasing solutions it provides a more filmic image quality overall.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...ext-generation

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Dantes Inferno no podia destronar a God of War, porque al pobre juego le cayo la del pulpo jeje.

Yo independientemente de todo me pillare el Ryse, espero que no haya que dedicarle mucho tiempo, porque busco algo efectista y para pasar el rato, para involucrarme a saco ya tengo BF4.

PS AC1 era un poco aburrido, se hacia pesado a la cuarta mision, buff...

Técnicamente el AC1 era una delicia pero era muy cansino.

Al Dante al final le dieron estopa por todas partes porque el hype que generó con que iba a llevarse a God of War de calle y que para Xbox iba a ser el nuevo God of War le pesó más que mucho.

Y eso que el Dante, artísticamente estaba muy bien.

Ryse , walking to the stair is RT/in engine, confirmed by Phil (impressive)

, cada vez me gusta mas este juego..................

El vídeo espectacular, el problema es que no sé de qué va el juego. Ni sé qué gráficos tiene ingame.

Pero es cierto que es de los que levanta expectación.