Última edición por Branagh/Doyle; 14/11/2024 a las 00:48 Razón: Me comí un trozo
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
The trick is to pretend you've planned the whole thing out in advance
Go Back to Da Cluuuub!!!
Pues lo he mirado y sale en... 2:14:10.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Extrañísimo XD También justo un minuto después.
Si no te es molestia XD El fundido a negroes en 1:22:35. Hay que desentrañar el misterio XDSpoiler:
The trick is to pretend you've planned the whole thing out in advance
Go Back to Da Cluuuub!!!
Ay! querido Francis
Es posible que las luces de la gran ciudad te hayan cegado levemente.
Eres el padre de una de las mejores películas de todos los tiempos y obtuviste la gloria por aquella grandiosa trilogia.
Ahora bien, gracias al cielo no existe nada de lo que afirmas con esas declaraciones en ella.
"The trick is not minding that it hurts"
Pues... no hay fundido como tal, que además recuerdo que se prolongaba un poquito en el corte de cine. Ahora, tras la secuencia con las siluetas en los edificios, hay una luz, como una especie de linterna en la oscuridad, que acaba desapareciendo y pasamos directamente al señor delante del micrófono haciendo la pregunta a la pantalla de cine. Esto sucede en 1:22:40
Qué cosa más rara.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Última edición por StarKiller Ren; 14/11/2024 a las 01:31
The trick is to pretend you've planned the whole thing out in advance
Go Back to Da Cluuuub!!!
¿Pero en cines no había un fundido a negro más largo antes de dar paso a la rueda de prensa? ¿O recuerdo mal?
Ren, resulta que la duración no es 2:19:01 en la copia de Amazon sino 2:19:39. Disculpa, anoche era tarde.
Ahora estoy delante del televisor, con las gafas puestas, y lo he comprobado dos veces.
"El círculo" en la sauna cierra en 1:55:49.
Última edición por Branagh/Doyle; 14/11/2024 a las 10:06
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Si, en cines hay segundos en negro para hacer tiempo a que llegara la persona real que hace la pregunta. Ahora ves al entrevistador llegar. Queda guay el cambio.
He desentrañado el misterio, hay un error en la copia de Amazon y salen dos escenas tras los créditos sin sonido, Julia con su padre en su despacho, y boda y paso a Saturnalia. XD
Última edición por StarKiller Ren; 14/11/2024 a las 10:35
The trick is to pretend you've planned the whole thing out in advance
Go Back to Da Cluuuub!!!
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Dice mi hijo mayor que la copia de Apple está correcta y que ellos además ofrecen la película con Dolby Atmos, cosa que Amazon no.
Eso si, definitivamente a los VFX les han pasado una mano de chapa y pintura.
Última edición por Branagh/Doyle; 14/11/2024 a las 10:55
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Pues yo lógicamente ahora exijo edición física en UHD con TODAS las versiones, incluidas las que sean defectuosas por incompetencia de alguna plataforma.
Boicot y cancelación en caso contrario...
Peinabombillas
Del it. peinar, bombilla.
1. adj. Dícese de aquel hombre que realiza actividades absurdas o faltas de razonamiento.
2. adj. coloq. Dicho de una persona: Que se comporta de forma similar o que evoca al cineasta James Gunn.
Una pregunta, Muthur. En este caso, la chapa y pintura de los VFX o el nuevo escenario en que transcurre la secuencia de la rueda de prensa no contaría respecto a tu postura de que el corte de cines de una película siempre ha de estar disponible, ¿correcto? Porque técnicamente, es el corte de cines, no dura más ni hay metraje nuevo de ninguna clase, ni diálogo nuevo.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
El corte original siempre debería ser obligatorio, independientemente de que no cambie la duración o incluso no se alteren secuencias. El corte de cines se presupone el primer corte "bueno", y debería incluirse en cualquier edición física o digital de la película.
Pero obviamente todo tiene matices y no hay absolutos, como en cualquier cosa de la vida...
Si el corte de cines es algo "provisional", no es la primera versión que quiere el director/productor y es como es por problemas de tiempo o técnicos de cualquier tipo, lo entiendo como corte ad hoc para salir del paso, y el concepto de corte "original" se lo atribuyo al corte que se edite inmediatamente después, si es lo que se quería desde un primer momento, y si los creadores así lo argumentan.
De todos modos supongo que en cuanto salgan las ediciones físicas y se pueda comparar, ya habrá debate y algo dirá el Godfather sobre todas las variaciones y cuál es el corte "real"...
Peinabombillas
Del it. peinar, bombilla.
1. adj. Dícese de aquel hombre que realiza actividades absurdas o faltas de razonamiento.
2. adj. coloq. Dicho de una persona: Que se comporta de forma similar o que evoca al cineasta James Gunn.
Aquí la única constante parece ser que Coppola hace lo que le da gana siempre.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
El espíritu de American Zoetrope iba precisamente en esa dirección. Y siempre ha definido bastante a ambos (Lucas y Coppola).
RIP, Sir Pratchett.
«¿Me permites una crítica constructiva a la mierda esa que has hecho?»
«En la primera reunión con él sobre el futuro de Star Wars, George se sintió traicionado» B. Iger.
«El mal no puede crear nada nuevo, sólo corromper o arruinar lo que las fuerzas del bien han inventado o construido». J.R.R. Tolkien.
«DEI kills ART. It´s ineffective and actually appears to increase prejudice, not reduce it».
«Put a chick in it and make her gay and lame». Cartman as K.K.
Me acaban de responder los de Amazon (les reporté el asunto anoche) disculpándose por la metedura de pata monumental e informándome de que ya han corregido el error. Efectivamente, me he metido en mi cuenta de UK, le he dado al play, y ya marca 2:18:01, exactamente la misma duración que el corte de cines.
Así que ya está todo en orden, Ren. Ya puedes descansar en paz.
También me han indicado, para mi enorme sorpresa (les pregunte si sabían algo al respecto, vaya, por si sonaba la flauta), que efectivamente some composites and CGI backgrounds have been improved by the American Zoetrope in house team for the home video release of the film (including the upcoming physical editions), and the color grading and contrast have been sightly tweaked as well in order to correct some unwanted flatness present within the cinematography of the theatrical cut.
Helado me he quedado. Supongo que esto ha sido posible tan rápido porque Coppola es propietario del film y no hay ningún estudio detrás. Legalmente, digo.
La verdad es que luce espectacular en 4K.
Última edición por Branagh/Doyle; 14/11/2024 a las 14:35 Razón: Errata
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
¿Se aplicara a las futuras ediciones fisicas en otros paises como Alemania, Francia...?
Esa es la verdadera cuestion.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
El confetti parece de altísima resolución ahora, eso está claro.
Y el montacargas ya no pixela. Cosillas así.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Esto lo digo porque dudo que de este film haya varios masters circulando, aunque podría equivocarme. Tiene pinta de que el resto del mundo tirará de la autoría/master que hagan los de Zoetrope para el BD y UHD USA. Cómo la peli es de Coppola... otra cosa será la codificación -bitrate- de la distribuidora encargada de la edición en físico en cada país.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.