Muy buenas, amigo. Pues en principio estoy dentro, claro. Siempre ha defendido a la trilogía de una forma muy particular, como una unidad autónoma (Matrix) complementada por un díptico formalmente menor y con una vocación expansiva casi desnortada pero muy agradecida (secuelas y la muy sugerente Animatrix). Aquí tengo mis más y mis menos y aún no sé a qué atenerme porque siquiera he visto el tráiler completo (tenía la sensación de que exponía demasiado). Narrativamente, ni puede ni va a ser tan obvia como sugiere (casi bordeando la secuela remake), la fotografía puntualmente se me antoja un tanto peculiar y hay planos aquí y allá que se delatan un tanto pero ESA fisicidad, esa cinética tan particular y regresar a una mitología con tantas posibilidades apriorísticas me meten dentro sí o también.
RIP, Sir Pratchett.
«En la primera reunión con él sobre el futuro de Star Wars, George se sintió traicionado» B. Iger.
"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." «1984»
Al menos no han eliminado la colorimetría en postproduccion, tiene una fotografía vistosa. Estamos asistiendo en los últimos años a una moda maldita (la última de Expediente Warren parece en blanco y negro) por parte de los directores de foto de eliminar el 80% del color y meterle filtros para dejarlo con un aspecto "apagado", sin vida.
Para algunos dramas nihilistas o alguna pelis de terror puede valer ese look, pero hacerlo por sistema... Parecen pelis para daltónicos. Uno de los casos mas sangrantes era el de Terminator Salvation. Y desde entonces les han imitado varios.
Última edición por Subwoofer; 12/09/2021 a las 22:39
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"The trick is not minding that it hurts"
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Esta posible idea no me disgusta...
Spoiler:
"The trick is not minding that it hurts"
Y parece que Lana Wachowski ha puesto todo su empeño y cariño en esta nueva pelicula.
Cuidao, que pinta tremendo.
Última edición por horner; 13/09/2021 a las 23:28
"The trick is not minding that it hurts"
¿Por que no respetas el spoiler?
Deja de torpedear el hilo y levantar spoilers por el simple hecho de que no aceptas esta pelicula que no ha llegado a estrenarse.
Y dejate de chorradas.
Última edición por horner; 14/09/2021 a las 01:09
"The trick is not minding that it hurts"
Ya, igual que respetasteis Dark Fate, sin haberse estrenado. Estamos para lo que nos interesa vamos....
Ya he puesto el Spoiler.
Me hago una pregunta.
El cuerpo físico de Neo no murio en Revolutions?
Solo asi se explica que este conectado de nuevo a Matrix
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Yo al ver el tráiler varias veces he pensado que Neo no muere físicamente al final de Revolutions, que las máquinas le curan y que le vuelven a meter en Matrix, eso sí, sin recordar nada de su vida hasta ese momento. Como cuando Cifra traiciona a sus amigos en la primera peli y le dice a Smith que quiere volver a Matrix, ser alguien rico y famoso y no recordar nada del mundo real. Algo así. Además en uno de los fotogramas se le ve a Neo con los ojos quemados y rodeado de máquinas como curándole o preparándole para volver a Matrix. Lo de Trinity ni idea, igual hacen lo mismo pero ella sí vemos cómo muere en la peli.
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Aun no sabemos
Spoiler:
"The trick is not minding that it hurts"
Si muere en Revolutions, en los extras lo dicen. Lo que se vayan a fumar ahora...veremos.
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Yo creo que
Spoiler:
- voy sobreviviendo señor chang..........voy sobreviviendo - Pierce brosnan, Muere otro dia.
Por mucho que me apene que Don Davis y Bill Pope no estén de vuelta, John Toll es un gigante de su oficio, y Tom Tykwer y Johnny Klimek han creado partituras magníficas para filmes cómo Perfume, The International, Cloud Atlas o la serie Sense 8.
Así que por mi parte estoy intrigado por ver el resultado de su trabajo en Matrix 4.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Del 10 de Septiembre.
The Matrix trilogy is one of the most successful film series of all time. »Matrix 4« has recently been added to the franchise. Parts of it were shot at silent green Kulturquartier. In this conversation, Bosnian-American writer Aleksandar Hemon, director Lana Wachowski, who co-wrote the screenplay with David Mitchell, who will also be present and Tom Tykwer, who had worked on the Wachowski series »Sense8«, provide insights into the writing as a team and the almost-nearly-always-impossible journey of turning that script into a film.
Notas sobre la charla para los que no puedan o tengan tiempo de ver el video:
Lana said that when Keanu first saw the new film, he said something like ''20 years ago, you told a story in which you described the coming 20 years and the problems of the nature of digital, virtual life and how it was gonna impact us and how we could think about it, and gave us a frame to be able to think and talk about it. And you took the same character and the same story and the same stuff, and somehow you made it about the next 20 years".
Lana said that, since Revolutions, WB would ask her and Lilly every year to make a new film, and offer a lot of money to do so.
One night, after lots of sleepless crying, a new Matrix story idea emerged to Lana. Neo and Trinity coming back to life, and it comforted her (amongst the real-world death afflicting her life at the time, such as her parents), and the story evolved from there. Lilly wanted to process her grief differently, but Lana's Matrix idea kept evolving.
Tom Tykwer says the trailer does a good idea of conveying the new film is a kind of rethinking of the original Matrix mythology/story. Says there's something extremely personal about Matrix movies, even with the larger-than-life SF stuff, and that was much clearer to him after meeting and befriending Lana.
Says the new film is "artistically a really different beast, with different energy, asking for different perspectives, and that was the only possibility for me to say I can join [working on the film]...it's a real new moon, or new sun, in the system...so the challenge for the music was to...both stay truthful to some of the legacies and imprints of the early films, but also emancipate from it and go to different musical realms...we don't produce music after the film has been shot and edited, but we do it before, we compose music based on the first drafts of the scripts, then rerecord it with a big orchestra".
Lana says Tom's method of doing the music before post-production was a revelation and revolution to her. She says it's like a new language for a movie.
Lana says she wasn't sure if she could make something better and newer than Sense8 (which meant so much to her), and that had her unsure about doing anything new for a while. Then the deaths in her life happened, and she felt she needed companionship, her friends, her collaborators (who mean so much to her), and that's part of what galvanised Matrix 4 too. Says there was powerful imaginative energy in making the new film, it reminded her of playing D&D when she was younger. "We never say no, we always say 'yes, and...'".
One of the co-writers (Aleksandar Hemon) emphasises that Lana does a great job facilitating other people's creative energies, and makes making art joyful. David Mitchell agrees, and says a joyful writer's room makes such a huge difference to the competitive ones he's seen before.
(Note: they really do all seem like good friends here, very respectful and appreciative of each other, it's nice to see. The host is also very enthusiastic about the Matrix, it's cute.)
Lana says John Toll (the cinematographer) is a very sweet man. Lana was afraid of natural light and the sun as a child. Lana loved control over light, she loved to model little glints and gleams and backlights and side-lights, controlled lighting she had the power over. She has no power over the sun, it's always moving and changing, which terrified her in the sense of making a film with. So she liked to think up ideas, storyboard out how it would be lit in a studio, and that's how she made her films. But then she met John Toll, who loves the sun.
They did Cloud Atlas together, and decided they really needed reality in the story (to match what David Mitchell wrote), so she started tiptoeing out into using natural light. John Toll showed Lana that, like Lana knew with acting, creativity isn't about control so much about facilitation. Like you make a circumstance for an actor to blossom out with their creativity (not forced, but enabling the emergence of a very human moment, that you have captured on film), John Toll showed Lana how to do that with the sun, with lighting. When you have that facilitated acting and lighting together, in the same scene Lana now finds it absolutely magical. John Toll helped her see how giving up control can be powerful, in that sense.
Lana thinks the very mathematical coordination of the Matrix movies is beautiful, but that the miraculous accidental improvisational element is also beautiful and an important aspect. Lana also has that approach to storytelling (less control, more emergence) in general now.
(Note: John Toll was the DP for Cloud Atlas along with Frank Griebe, the DP for Jupiter Ascending alone, and the DP for The Matrix 4 along with Daniele Massaccesi, who took over after John had to leave the filming in Germany for family health issues. As you can see in that link, John is very complimentary of Daniele.)
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Tripley... ¿estás siguiendo este proyecto?. ¿Atrae tú interés?. ¿Has visto el trailer?.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Sí, estoy siguiendo el proyecto y atrae mi interés, pero es verdad que no me considero tan fan de la saga como los que por aquí tan bien hablan de ella.
Creo que voy a tener que revisar la trilogía (tal vez así mejore mi opinión de la segunda parte que, para mí es la menos interesante, tal como se ha indicado por arriba, por alguna escena que para mí desmerece un poco respecto al conjunto) para tener frescos los detalles.
Por otro lado, tal como indicas, respecto al score, pese a no estar Davis, yo espero algo interesante de Tom Tykwer y Johnny Klimek y en cuanto a la fotografía, hay está ya el trailer que creo que habla por sí solo.
Saludos
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Lo sé, pero creo recordar que tienes en buena estima el resto de la filmografía de las W (excepción hecha de Jupiter Ascending).
V de Vendetta te gusta (es claramente una peli suya), Cloud Atlas te gustó mucho creo recordar, Speed Racer también, Sense 8 también (aunque sea una serie), y me suena que incluso su debut (Bound, o Lazos Ardientes como se título por aquí).
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.