Tema: El Post de los Simuladores de Conducción

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Eso si, es simulador puro y duro y ese g25 con embrague le va como anillo al dedo.

Para usar 4 velocidades...


No me gusta nada la competición USA... pero nada...


Unicamente jugaba (en su día) en los circuitos "no ovales"... pero por probar... 4 velocidades

No lo encuentro en el burro los ficheros que me bajo no son buenos, buaaaaaaaaaa.

No se si conociais este nuevo simulador en proceso de fabricación.

http://www.iracing.com/index.htm


Os dejo unas cuantas fotos y un video, como no, funcionando en el 301 de ForceDynamics (creo q el q conduce es un viejo piloto).













Video-> http://media.putfile.com/PRI

parece que aún va para largo.
FAQ:

02. Is this a game?
No, iRacing.com is not a video game. It is a training tool for real-world racers and a platform for a new branch of motorsport — known as simracing — which is the sport of real-time, online racing.

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03. Where do I buy it?
iRacing.com Motorsport Simulations will only be available at www.iracing.com.

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04. What do I need to get started?
A relatively current home PC (see number 07 below for more info), a broadband Internet connection and a basic steering wheel and pedals (computer version, not out of a friend's car), which can be purchased from any major electronics retailer. Check back at iRacing.com in the near future for a list of recommended controls and retail outlets.

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05. When can I start driving?
Development of the iRacing.com simulation is ongoing. Unlike traditional software publishing practices that involve hard-and-fast release dates and associated media blitzes, the iRacing.com roll-out will follow more of an organic growth pattern, moving from beta testing to targeted introductions to broader availability over time. We are helping to grow a new sport, which is a much more complex task than simply launching a product.

Esos son los de Papyrus ¿no?

Si, son los antiguos Papyrus, se nota bastante en sus graficos XD

Por cierto, echarle un ojo a este video ingame del GTvision de PS3, es en the mother... ESPECTACULAR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruIFF3olhAM&NR

Otro simulador nuevo para mediados del 2009.



http://www.gar07.com

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Si, son los antiguos Papyrus, se nota bastante en sus graficos XD

Por cierto, echarle un ojo a este video ingame del GTvision de PS3, es en the mother... ESPECTACULAR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruIFF3olhAM&NR

ESPECTACULAR? Donde?

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El Logitech G25 se retrasa hasta el 13 de noviembre...

Mañana es el gran día .............

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El Logitech G25 se retrasa hasta el 13 de noviembre...

Mañana es el gran día .............

5 de diciembre....

Veras, que no va a estar listo para navidad, y voy a tener que esperar hasta las navidades del año que viene

Si alguno estais pensando en algun cockpit, para adquirirlo junto al G25




http://www.bobearlracing.com/

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El Logitech G25 se retrasa hasta el 13 de noviembre...

Mañana es el gran día .............

5 de diciembre....

(según esto AQUÍ está disponible)
Wenasss señores
pos ya m habeis liao. Buscando algo mejor para sacarle más partido a mi DFP (del GT4 ya se habló y aunque no sea un mal juego, pues es eso, un juego) vine a parar akí. Toda la mañana del viernes sin rascar bola en el curro leyéndome el post enterito. Que vicio!!! Total, que ya me bajé la demo del LFS, los drivers para el PC del volante, está bajando la demo del RACE-WTCC....... con la conclusión de q tengo q cambiarle las tripas al PC y necesito una conexión con urgencia.
Hasta estoy pensando en vender el DFP y pillarme el G25 (o robar un banco -q ya voy mayorcito- y comprame todo lo de FREX directamente ... y un pantallón o 3 y un trackir.... basta, bastaaaa!).
El caso es que entré en DiscoAzul donde yo compré la play, la carcasa, los swap-magic, el DFP, el PlaySeat.... y según ellos tienen en stock el G25 (os puse el link arriba). Como estos tios son de mi city siempre les compré directamente en el almacén, pero ahora tienen tienda y mañana me coincide pasar por allí, así q entraré para confirmarlo y el miércoles os cuento.
saúde

En Optize le han quitado hasta el precio y aparece como no disponible... así que me da la impresión que esos de Disco Azul no lo tienen...

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En Optize le han quitado hasta el precio y aparece como no disponible... así que me da la impresión que esos de Disco Azul no lo tienen...

probablemente tengas razón pero por preguntar q no kede
estos elementos creo q tb tuvieron la psp japo, así q no pierdo nada x pasar x allí

slàinte

Hay un post muy interesante sobre los actuales volantes de ordenador, entre ellos el G25.
El forero espera q el volante de FREX sea algo identico a la realidad.

I can tell you that I purchased a G25 and took delivery on Friday. I knew that my shifter+ would not work with it but thought I would just try out the wheel to see how much of an improvement it is over the current frex dfp.

I can tell you now - the G25 is not a good wheel. Its mechanics seem maybe 10 or 20% stronger than the dfp BUT it feels more notchy than the dfp - it does not feel smooth.

The padel shifts are cheap and too close to the wheel rim - you feel you might cut your fingers on them.

I am sure someone can prove on paper how much of an improvement the G25 is over the DFP. Maybe the DFP's get better /smoother with time but comparing the two - the frex DFP feels more realistic than anything else out there at the moment - this being based on my experience of driving various race cars on circuits. The Frex DFP is not perfect - the dfp mechanics are too cheap - when correcting oversteer - there is a slight artificial feel but for the cost - this is a minor point.

Maybe the G25 improves with time but for now, imo , the G25 is not a step on from the dfp. My G25 is up for sale

A major factor in getting a wheel to feel right imo are the following:

- Very solid construction - as soon as you feel flex or movement - it feels like a toy

- A proper steering wheel should be used - from real cars and ideally sizes can be easily changed to go for road/gt cars to single seater

- The wheel should be made from alcantara or similar - really adds to the quality

I drove my Porsche GT3RS yesterday back to back with my Ariel Atom 300. The RS has amazing, race prepared steering - it has a large steering wheel and has power steering. So the wheel is light at slow speeds but it is so finely tuned than at higher speeds you really feel the road wheel forces load up the amount of input required. It is a probably has the best power assisted steering of any road car barr none. The Atom, has no power assistance - and as such has heavier steering at lower speeds.
My Radical SR3 - had a very small wheel, very heavy steering at low speeds and because of the wide/ slick tyres and downforce produced by the car the steering was heavy around corners but lighter on the straights

By the way, all of the above have sued/ alcantara steering wheels
So taking the above into account - it is very important to have force feedback - anyone that says they do not like force feedback want to remain in an artificial world - they do not understand reality and the loading that steering goes through when on circuit

It is very important that when you turn the wheel - you can feel the forces start to increase - as the car wheels/ tyres/ suspension/ g forces (aero and non aero) x speed, take their respective effects. The only way to do this is to activate the "centre spring" within current options. I usually have this at 100 to 105% on my 11 month old frex dfp.

Alot of people drive their sims with the same amount of force on the wheel, whatever the speed and whatever the corner - this is not accurate

The wheel should not feel notchy - it should feel smooth.

Now to the most critical element - understeer and oversteer

This is what make a steering wheel feel or not feel real.

At Spa - driving my Radical SR3 - you approach a very long downhill right hand 180 degree corner - which is just after the chicane after the Kemmel straight. I think the corner is called Brussels. This is the worst corner i know in real life for making a car understeer. The tarmac is falling away from you as the corner twists right - the corner seems never ending. This corner created the worst understeer in the Radical. The steering became very heavy as the front tyres gripped the corner but as your speed increased around the corners and the tyres started to slide, the weight of the steering reduced slightly - only a little - but enough to let you know the tyres were understeering. As you come out of the corner and on to the next short straight the weight of the steering reduces by probably 50%.

Now to oversteer. I did not do too much of this in the Radical as there was so much grip with the aero effects but I can give you a description of how it felt. Clearly, in most cases, oversteer is going to occur between the apex to exit of a corner. So, as described above , the wheel is loaded up with the maximum amount of force as you reach the apex.

As you go from the apex to the exit point of the corner, your steering angle will start to reduce slightly and, as such, the forces on the wheel begin to reduce. This is a smooth transition of forces as you start to straighten the wheel. If you get on the gas too soon, and/or your steering angle was wrong, the back of the car can start to step out. In the Radical this was very quick but progressive, requiring only a few cm's or opposite turn to correct. The most important thing is that the forces on the wheel dropped quickly as the weight across the front axle changes slightly due to the back of the car stepping around. So instead of a progressive reduction in forces as you exit the corner, you feel a sudden reduction in forces. If you correct the steering quickly, you feel the wheel forces return to normal, if you you get it wrong - the forces dip and then increase and keep increasing depending on the angle at the back of the car

A none aero car has the same effects on the steering wheel, but the forces are lower.

If you are using a force feedback % in options, this really should only be increased if you are using a car with slicks and aero. So an F1 car would have 95 to 100% ffb whilst a Lotus Elan in GTL should really have 30 to 40% . Currently there isn't too much difference between them all.

Hope this helps explain a few things

If Frex want someone to evaluate a Beta test on their new wheel - I'd be happy to provide an evaluation

Pos parece q ya hay gente q lo tiene http://www.xtremeracers.net/nuke/mod...r=asc&start=45

Aunque creo q va a ser mejor añadirle los pedales y el shifter de Frex al DFP



EDITO: las impresiones del afortunado poseedor del G25 http://www.onlinemotorsports.es/inde...27&topic=116.0
aunque dudo mucho que sea de fiar un tipo que dice que ponía el DFP en 200º porque si ponía más se le iba fuera..... :? :?

Un video impresionante del mod V8 para GTR2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8vLO7EuRvo


Por cierto, ya salió la version final de Nordschleife 2006 (VLN, 24H and Tourist) para el GTR2.
Una versión que llevan haciendo la leche de tiempo.



http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=273834

los poseedores de rfactor no le sorprenderan estas novedades porque tanto el mod V8 como la version de Nordschleife salieron ya hace tiempo para el simulador de ISI..

Tanto el mod V8 como el circuito son completamente nuevos, lleva haciendolos el Team MMM desde hace bastante tiempo y seran exclusivos para GTR2 (el v8 de Rfactor lleva ya tiempo y es de un equipo de desarrollo bastante peor).
Que despues los modders del Rfactor gumien la pista como hacen con todas, eso ya no lo dudo.

Volviendo al simulador Iracing..
Echar un ojo al video, parece q lo estan dejando muy muy bien.



http://www.iracing.com/

Hoy se ha realizado el envío de su pedido XXXX-XXXXXXX-XXX.

Se han incluido los siguientes productos:

Resumen de pedido:

Cantidad Descripción Precio/unidad IVA Total EUR
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1 963416-0914 Logitech G25 Racing Wheel 299.99 19.00% 299.99

Envío y porte: 0.00
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TOTAL: 299.99
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IVA incluido en el total: EUR 47.90

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Fecha de pedido 21/09/2006


ES DECIR QUE YA PRONTO, EL LUNES CREO, ME LLEGA EL G25
IUPiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!

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Por cierto, ya salió la version final de Nordschleife 2006 (VLN, 24H and Tourist) para el GTR2.
Una versión que llevan haciendo la leche de tiempo.



http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=273834

gracias.. eso sí nada que ver con el "peso" de los circuitos normales, he tenido que bajarle todo para rodar en tiempo real.

No se si ya sabiais q la superficie de los circuitos esta tomada por laser, con lo que se acabo una pista tipo tapete de billar.
Se pueden ver perfectamente los desniveles, tanto de la propia pista, como del entorno al igual de como actuan las suspensiones durante todo el recorrido.

no esta mal, pero aun asi segun esa comparativa en algunos puntos nos es del todo exacto..
/modo tocapelotas off