O si no, Tonk:
O si no, Tonk:
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Estoy de acuerdo contigo, yo veo muy claramente todo eso que dices.
A lo mejor es cuestión de estilo, que aquellos foreros tendían a identificar "mejor" y "mas complejo" con el tipo de orquestaciones que hacían gente como Williams. Pero yo lo veo bastante claro, Rota hacía trabajos magníficos, y dentro de los estilos que usaba, sobresalía constantemente.
Yo no tengo formación en música de ningún tipo, solo soy un simple aficionado.
El pasado viernes, Silva edito un pequeño recopilatorio de la musica de Marco Beltrami interpretado por la Filarmonica de Bruselas, que tambien se encuentra disponible en digital.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
De todas maneras estoy de acuerdo contigo en que parece, últimamente, haber mala prensa en lo que a los compositores más melodicos respecta, no sé. Quizá hoy en día se valoran más las composiciones rítmicas y atmosféricas, y lo otro se ve como anticuado o pasado de moda.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
¿Que ha pasado con Giacchino y Batman?. ¿Se puede escuchar algo ya o se le está dando caña porque si?. Porque si es lo segundo...
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Tampoco me referia a ti, B/D
Me refiero que en varias ocasiones, Giacchino no alcanza a veces el potencial que tiene, especialemente, cuando trabaja con gente como Trevorrow o Watts, que en mi opinion, han cohibido mucho a Giacchino.
Cuando trabaja con directores como Andrew Stanton o Brad Bird, Giacchino alcanza niveles de excelencia brillantes: John Carter, Incredibles o Ghost Protocol. Joer, hasta Abrams cuando le toco hacer Star Trek y Super 8 (si bien es cierto que cuando trabajo con el MI:3 no estuvo tanto a la altura, se notaba que venia de Alias y adapto mas o menos el estilo de aquella, pero mas melodico) incluso con Edwards en Rogue One (en mi opinion, saco mas provecho de aquella que un año antes con JW, e inclusive la horrenda secuela, trabajo musical muy superior al del 2015)
Y obviamente con Matt Reeves, Let Me In, es una JOYAAA
Q: "I'm your new quartermaster"
007: "You must be joking"
_______________________
CLAUDIO: "Lady, as you are mine, I am yours"
_______________________
EISENSTEIN: "I'm a boxer for the freedom of the cinematic expression" -"I'm a scientific dilettante with encyclopedic interests"
A mí también me parece injusto esa posible exigencia. Williams y Goldsmith han realizado verdaderas obras maestras (en todos los géneros) y en esto de los superhéroes. Luego podríamos citar la etapa Elfman, cuyo Batman fue un verdadero punto de inflexión en esto de las bandas sonoras (por mucho que no se le quiera reconocer) y luego, para mí, Giacchino es lo más interesante en esta corriente, digamos más sinfónica.
Para la corriente más ambiental ahí está Zimmer y sus seguidores.
Saludos
Q: "I'm your new quartermaster"
007: "You must be joking"
_______________________
CLAUDIO: "Lady, as you are mine, I am yours"
_______________________
EISENSTEIN: "I'm a boxer for the freedom of the cinematic expression" -"I'm a scientific dilettante with encyclopedic interests"
Borrado.
Última edición por Branagh/Doyle; 20/10/2019 a las 13:19
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Se acaba de lanzar la edición completa de la banda sonora de John Carpenter para el Halloween de 2018, que incluye casi media hora más de material, presentando todo esta vez en orden cronologico. Se puede escuchar en Itunes, Spotify, Youtube Music, y se puede adquirir el CD físico en Amazon
Edito. Parece ser que en físico SOLO está disponible en vinilo.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Lakeshore Records ha editado digitalmente la musica de la serie Daybreak, que musicaliza Andrew Lockington. Un sorpreson, compositor tremendamente infravalorado que ha tenido varios blockbusters (y muy eficazmente y solidamente musicalizados por el) y alguna que otra serie.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Tengo entendido que fueron tanto Ridley como Rawlings quienes MANCILLARON el grandisimo score de Goldsmith (magnum opus) introduciendo aquellos tracks de la notable Freud. De hecho, el cabreo de Goldsmith fue legendario que se cogio a Alfred Newman y grabo toda la partitura original que ha posteriori, fue rescatada por Intrada.
Si si, los articulos detallan todo eso y desgranan donde va la música no usada y la comentan a nivel de instrumentación, muy interesante.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Es que vaya racha que tuvo en la segunda mitad de los 70 Goldsmith.
En el 74 chinatown con sus estilos orientales con jazz. En el 75 la clásica y épica El viento y el León. En el 76 la mastodóntica The omen (la maldición) uno de los scores mas serios y oscuros que he escuchado en mi vida, y durante los 3 siguientes años cosas como El primer gran asalto al tren, Los chicos del brasil, La isla del adiós o Capricornio uno . Y acabó la década con Alien, y la icónica star trek: the movie.
Es que madre mía... en variedad y calidad, es algo casi inabarcable.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.