Desplat puede hacer lo que quiera, efectivamente. Otra cosa es que trabaje en lo que más le llame. Pero versatilidad tiene de sobra.
Es un genio. Aunque cada vez le veo mas cansado. Debería bajar el ritmo de trabajo.![]()
Desplat puede hacer lo que quiera, efectivamente. Otra cosa es que trabaje en lo que más le llame. Pero versatilidad tiene de sobra.
Es un genio. Aunque cada vez le veo mas cansado. Debería bajar el ritmo de trabajo.![]()
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Lo reconoce el mismo: No salgo mucho, no doy apenas fiestas. Solo escribo música, todo el tiempo.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Perspicaz observación de B/D en sus últimas 6 palabras.
¿Y lo deliciosamente anacrónico que hizo en Monuments Men, uh? Efectivamente, poder puede con todo, otra cosa es que entre (o cueste).
"People believe my folderol because I wear a turban and a black tuxedo [...] We're in show biz! It's all about razzle-dazzle. Appearances. If you dress nice and talk well, people will swallow anything."
"Waving the flag with one hand and picking pockets with the other: that's your patriotism. Well, you can have it." Alfred Hitchcock's Notorious.
"Listen to them... Children of the night! What music they make..!"
Dijo que escribió Imitation Game en tres semanas. Se ha ganado fama de rápido y profesional. Y no usa orquestadores, solo copistas porque todo lo hace él. Dice que se trata de disciplina, levantarse a las 6:30 y sentarse a trabajar hasta la hora de comer. Luego, seguir por la tarde, hasta las 18:00. Y así.
Literalmente vive para hacer música para películas. Y lo escalofriante es que el nivel, aunque haga un puñado de pelis al año, apenas baja...
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Rise of the Guardians es otra maravilla:
Con Desplat me he puesto super en serio desde hace unos meses, porque he tenido la oportunidad de leer partituras suyas y de verdad que desde Goldsmith no veía semejante salvajada a nivel técnico. Que formación, que estructura, que bien escritas. Es arquitectura musical.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Encima tiene porte, y es bien parecido....
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"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Y tiene casa en Mallorca...![]()
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
"People believe my folderol because I wear a turban and a black tuxedo [...] We're in show biz! It's all about razzle-dazzle. Appearances. If you dress nice and talk well, people will swallow anything."
"Waving the flag with one hand and picking pockets with the other: that's your patriotism. Well, you can have it." Alfred Hitchcock's Notorious.
"Listen to them... Children of the night! What music they make..!"
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Sigamos hablando de Desplat, si os parece: A mi juicio, el "problema" con el compositor francés es que se trata de alguien extremadamente inteligente, versado y cultivado, con gran bagaje cultural y exquisitos modales. Esa forma de ser en parte la traslada a su música, que tiende muchísimo a la intelectualización y planificación elaboradas, hasta el punto de resultar pedante o pretencioso para muchos.
En lugar de captar las necesidades de la película mediante la melodía y temas que reflejen el estado psicologico de los personajes con sus armonías (cosa que si hace el polaco, por este motivo mucho más accesible y de inmediato disfrute para el aficionado), Desplat suele hacerlo desde la propia construcción musical, obras densas y con múltiples capas que reflejan, a menudo rítimicamente, el tempo interno del montaje.
Pongamos como ejemplo The Imitation Game, con la orquesta creando ritmicos circulos concentricos que establecen simetrias con los mensajes codificados que Turing y compañia debian encargarse de descodificar; mientras que la instrumentación sugiere la capacidad de Turing para pensar en términos matematicos pero sus graves dificultades para establecer vínculos emocionales... o el escritor, donde resulta que la cadencia del tema principal emula tanto el agobio por la certeza de una conspiración creciente, que deviene en paranoia y más tarde en lo inevitable del destino, como el ritmo que se establece al escribir a máquina... y así con la película que me digais. La que sea, Potter, Godzilla, incluso Firewall es más tosca en las orquestaciones porque emula lo mecanico (y firme, preciso repetitivo), de un sistema de seguridad informatico....
Es increíble. Antepone siempre la narrativa y el caracter cinematografico de la partitura a crear temas "bonitos" o accesibles en escucha aislada (lo que no quiere decir que no los tenga). Se puede argumentar que Korzeniowski consigue lo mismo con temas romanticos y armonicamente accesibles. Es cierto. Parece que el francés haya querido sublimar la música de cine, demostrar que se puede escribar musica compleja y de elaborada estructura, que no hay que hacer concesiones. Intelectualmente, para su completo disfrute, requiere bagaje y cierta formación... pero yo no había visto nada igual en décadas, ya digo, desde Goldsmith, al que le importaba un pimiento que la obra fuese facil o accesible para la escucha aislada.
¿Su respuesta para el aficionado? Aprende, estudia, educa el oído. ¿Pedante? ¿Pretencioso?. No, es solo que hay niveles, cómo todo en la vida.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Por ejemplo, del analisis de Godzilla en filmtracks:
Desplat doesn't allow his intellectual compositional mannerisms to take a leave of absence, resulting in perhaps the most orchestrally accomplished music in the franchise to date. As already mentioned, you hear pieces of Ifukube's identity in places, most frequently in the applications of brass, but in conjunction with the density that you expect from Desplat at his more rambunctious, a learned film music collector will hear similarities to Elliot Goldenthal's frightfully complex methodology of the 1990's and the brutal low brass usage akin to Don Davis' The Matrix trilogy as well. Desplat doubled the size of the brass section for this score, allowing both low concentrations of brute force and, when necessary, several overlapping lines of action without sacrificing power
It's difficult not to admire Desplat's accomplished textural and emotional accompaniment to the script in Godzilla, his score often so smart in its execution of distinct loud lines of action that you can't help but appreciate the tenacity. The flipside of that benefit, however, is the digestive issue listeners might experience with the music.
if you have grown weary of dumb and derivative summer blockbuster scores of the era, then Desplat's aptitude at adapting to nearly any genre will merit your strong consideration
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
La bso de Godzilla de Desplat me recuerda al Herrmann de Mysterious Island, ominosa, insistente, agobiante, perfecta para señalar el peligro latente y lo monstruoso.
Me la suelo poner para andar, dan ganas de ir deprisa y no mirar atrás![]()
Influencias de Hermann, Goldsmith y Goldenthal... y Beltrami y JNH, pero sobretodo de Ifukube, mucho Ifukube sin usar su mitico tema central (que si usara McCreary en la secuela)
Aun asi, lo de Desplat es glorioso.
La escritura de Desplat de acción es muy superior, en claridad expositiva y paleta crómatica, a lo que hacen JNH y MB, que ojo, son dos buenos compositores. Si es cierto que toma de estos ciertos manierismos del blockbuster hollywoodiense, más cómo asidero puntual para el espectador que cómo guia real para estructurar su composición, que es enteramente suya pasada por el filtro del homenaje a Ifukube, usando colores, patrones, instrumentación e incluso escalas japonesas (en ocasiones). Es un score maravilloso, que tiene el sonido grande y espectacular que podría esperarse de las mega pelicula de acción de hoy en día, pero a la vez es complejo, denso, y exigente con el oyente.
Una pasada.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
En Twitter, tras una pregunta sobre BSO favoritas, Joss Whedon (que escribió el solo el episodio musical de Buffy -letras y música-, la BSO de su Shakespeare, y canciones sueltas para The Lion King 2, In your eyes y alguna película más, y la co escritura de varias de las canciones Dr Horrible, claro) ha respondido:
Once Upon a Time in the West
Angeles Ashes
Batman
Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence
The Painted Veil
Memoirs of a Geisha
The Ghost and Mrs. Muir
(P. Doyle’s) Great Expectations
12 Monkeys
Midnight Cowboy
(B.Conti’s) Thomas Crown Affair
A.I.
Swept from the Sea
(edito: la canción de The Lion King 2 fue sólo la letra; en el caso de In Your Eyes no me queda claro)
Última edición por Synch; 02/03/2019 a las 19:43
Bottom line is, even if you see 'em coming, you're not ready
for the big moments.No one asks for their life to change, not really. But it
does.So what are we, helpless? Puppets? No. The big moments are
gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that
counts. That's when you find out who you are. You'll see what I mean.
Whistler (Buffy The Vampire Slayer - 2x21 Becoming, Part One - Joss Whedon)
Ojo con Whedon, la lista es IMPECABLE, eh.
PD: El Velo Pintado puede ser perfectamente top 10 de este siglo. Probablemente, si tuviese que afinar mucho (hablamos de Desplat, que tiene obras maestras A PUÑADOS) , lo más perfecto del francés junto con La Joven De La Perla y El Escritor. Y metería Godzilla también. La narrativa de esas partituras es ACOJONANTE. En concreto el escritor es CINE hecho música, literalmente.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Joer, rescato la reseña de Conrado de Godzilla porque clava en un parrafillo lo que yo he intentado decir en 25 posts...
El compositor aplica una poderosa música sinfónica que gira en derredor de un contundente tema principal que referencia a la bestia y le otorga grandilocuencia. Este tema conoce algunas variaciones que no cambian su significado pero sí intensifican el peligro y la amenaza que representa. A su alrededor surgen otros temas destinados a generar caos y violencia, todos ellos secundarios pero que unidos adquieren una enorme fortaleza. Es notable por su sólida estructura, por su coherencia estilística, por no rendirse a ninguna concesión comercial, por el delirio general que destila en su conjunto y por sus momentos espectaculares. No hay espacio para lo dramático: toda la música es violenta y hostil, salvo en su cierre que, aunque épico, es más lírico.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Recalcamos que gente no le gusta Godzilla porque no hay themes.
Godzilla es lo mas abrumadoramente caotico y excelentemente escrito que he visto en mucho tiempo en la musica cinematografica, lo dice alguien que le gusta Dunkirk o Venom![]()
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"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Exacto.
Aqui un tramo de la reseña de Southall sobre el score, donde lo expone
Some people will bemoan the lack of themes and they’re right – the themes there are subtle – but that’s just not what the score’s about. This is not a score for the faint-hearted. It gnarls and growls throughout. It is oppressively dark, gradually closing in before going for the jugular. I haven’t heard an orchestral onslaught as savage as this in a film score in a long time. Desplat has pretty much now proved that he can do anything – for all my admiration for the composer I wasn’t sure he had a brutal score like this one in him. It’s a 2014 action blockbuster with a distinctive, individual sound, brilliantly written and orchestrated, brilliantly played by the orchestra and brilliantly recorded by Dennis Sands – and it is sensational.
The Luzhin Defence, coproducción anglo francesa del año 2000, antes de su "explosión" con la joven de la perla, es también una maravilla.
Última edición por Branagh/Doyle; 16/01/2019 a las 18:22
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.