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Tema: Gedo Senki // Tales of Earthsea // Terramar (Ghibli)

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    Predeterminado Gedo Senki // Tales of Earthsea // Terramar (Ghibli)


    Cito de CiNeol:
    Cuando aún no se ha estrenado en nuestro país la última película del reputado (y por un buen motivo) Studio Ghibli, Howl's Moving Castle, la compañía ya ha anunciado su nuevo proyecto. Y esta vez se trata de la adaptación de uno de las más famosas sagas fantásticas de la literatura occidental, la de Terramar (obra de Ursula K. LeGuin).

    Ha sido el hijo de Hayao Miyazaki, Goro, el encargado de dirigir el film, que se estrenará en Julio del 2006 en Japón y quién sabe cuando en España. El film, basado en el primer libro de la serie (Un Mago de Terramar), se centra en Ged, el que fue un día el más importante y ambicioso hechicero de Terramar, y cuenta la historia de su aprendizaje en las artes de la magia, cómo consiguió domar a un viejo dragón, y cómo plantó cara a la propia muerte.

    Podéis ver su poster en tamaño gigante pinchando en la imagen.

    ¿Seremos capaces de esperar dos años para verla?
    Moooooola... qué ganassss :amor a esperar toca a que salga en cine en tierras niponas (y el DVD otro añito más :(( )

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    Qué bien, qué bien. Tiene una estética a lo Nausicaa... Cómo me gusta todo lo que hace Ghibli. Y además, sabes que lo que verás será una obra maestra.
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    This is the end of the world you thought you lived in

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    Qué dragon tan bonito... en movimiento tiene que dar gusto verlo, debe ser una pesadilla animar eso, no? En fin, a ver si no tarda demasiado en llegar aquí, del modo que sea....
    "Aún tienes mucho que aprender, joven Padawan"

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    A ver si vuelve a ser una obra maestra, que la del castillo me decepcionó un poco.
    El dragón es una pasada

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    Tiene una pinta genial.

    Dentro de poco veré e Castillo de Howls.

    Un saludo.

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    Buah, qué pintaza...aunque no sea del Maestro sino de su hijo.

    Seguro que esta adaptación sí molará, no la mierda esa casposa con Isabella Rosellini y Kristin Kreuk que hicieron en el Sci-Fi Channel (EarthSea).

    De todas formas, prefiero al Ghibli que hace guiones originales o adaptaciones niponas antes que al que adapta literatura occidental (Howl's).
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    Nadie ha notado la casualidad de que en 2006 también se estrene Eragon (joven + dragón)? Libro que por cierto estoy leyendo.

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    Entrevista a Goro Miyazaki. Translation extraída de http://www.ghibliworld.com/news.html
    2005 December 13th
    Introductory message - "My father was against this"

    This may sound abrupt , but my father (Hayao Miyazaki) was against me directing Gedo Senki. However, first I would like to make something clear. To be honest I never desired to open a diary on the Internet and come out in front of everybody. If I had something that I wanted to tell with my own voice, it would be, "I want you to watch the work I have completed", that's all. My desire as a director is to "have people watch Gedo Senki with direct feelings and no idle thoughts", that's all.

    However, once the promotion for Gedo Senki started, regardless to weither you like it or not, the adjective of me, the director, also being "Hayao Miyazaki's son" will be applied. In response to that, the conclusion that producer Toshio Suzuki reached was of course to "answer with the work itself", but also "in order to compete with the work itself, people should look at Goro Miyazaki as an individual person, not as "Hayao Miyazaki's son"." After considering all of these things I too agreed with that view.

    In short I decided to try to experiment, even if the order is backwards, to have people watch the work Gedo Senki without preconceptions by expressing what I was thinking as a director through this diary. As for choosing to use the internet as a method to express my thoughts the foremost reason is because it is a medium that can connect with people most directly. Of course, ideas such as accepting media interviews or press conferences, as has been done before, were also considered, but I felt that in order to carry out the above-mentioned experiment, I would be able to express my ideas in a more frank manner by not working through the filter of the media.

    As I stated in the beginning, I will not impetuously state the reason why my father was against me directing this film. I think I should reveal that as I describe the path which led me to work as a director and the daily production status. Lastly, there are two reasons why I took on the direction of Gedo Senki. The first one is that I felt attraction towards the story of Gedo Senki. The second one is that I noticed something in me, that it was difficult to brush away the feelings I had toward animation that I had pretended not to notice until now, for reasons including the relationship with my father. I don't want to talk specifically about the content of the movie before it is released, but the theme that I wish to express through the movie come out clearly: "What is it to live honestly these days?" That is the way of life that I wish follow and it is also the theme of this diary.

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    ¿Ghibli adaptando a K. LeGuin? Es como un sueño ésto :amor

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    Cita Iniciado por Sargento McKamikaze
    ¿Ghibli adaptando a K. LeGuin? Es como un sueño ésto :amor
    A que sí. Es como si Shyamalan o Lynch adaptasen a Gaiman.
    "Yo tenía la botella y la máquina de escribir. Yo quería un pájaro en cada mano, a la mierda con los que estaban volando."

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    Lástima que vaya a ser en 3D

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    Cita Iniciado por chuachi
    Lástima que vaya a ser en 3D
    ??? en 3D?? de dónde has sacado eso :?

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    Dios quiera que no sea en 3D, entonces estaría claro porque Hayao está en contra del proyecto de su hijo.
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    No vayáis tan rápido, ¿qué malo tiene que se en 3D? Lo que importa es que se haga bien en todos los aspectos, la técnica que usen da igual. el dragón tiene pinta de ser mucho más fácil de animar si se hace en 3D, no?? Animar todas esas escamas con animación tradicional... pfff. Yo confío en que lo harán bien, son japoneses, leches!
    "Aún tienes mucho que aprender, joven Padawan"

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    Cita Iniciado por Adamantibus
    Dios quiera que no sea en 3D, entonces estaría claro porque Hayao está en contra del proyecto de su hijo.
    ¿Está en contra del proyecto de su hijo? :?
    "Yo tenía la botella y la máquina de escribir. Yo quería un pájaro en cada mano, a la mierda con los que estaban volando."

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    En 3D Quiza, pero me parece extraño.
    De todas formas aunque vaya en contra de la tradicion del estudio, seguro que saldra una maravilla de pelicula.

    Que ganas

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    ¿qué malo tiene que se en 3D?
    No me gusta la animación en 3D y menos en un estudio consagrado a la animación tradicional y de los pocos que había permanecido íncolume a la fiebre CGI.

    Otra cosa es que sólo el Dragón fuera 3D.

    De todas fromas, no sé de dónde sale esa información y tengo serias dudas de que así sea.

    ¿Está en contra del proyecto de su hijo?
    Sí, es lo que dice el artículo que ha posteado Vito.
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    Primero creo que habría que confirmar que va a ser en 3D.

    Y segundo, ¿a que se refieren con 3D? Pongo 2 ejemplos de utilización de 3D que he visto recientemente y cuyos resultados son muy distintos: Appleseed y Steamboy. El 3D de la primera no me gusta, por la rigidez de los personajes y ciertos movimientos (otros, son simplemente impresionantes). En el caso de Steamboy, pongo el ejemplo de la escena (al principio de la peli) en la que Ray sale corriendo del salón con su hermana, el aspecto de los personajes sigue siendo de animación tradicional, aunque la escena esta hecha en 3D (tal y como se ve en el "making off").

    Un saludo.
    Solo después de que haya sido talado el ultimo árbol,
    solo después de que haya sido envenenado el ultimo río,
    solo después de que haya sido pescado el último pez,
    solo entonces nos daremos cuenta de que el dinero no se puede comer

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    Hombre, si es 3D "dibujada" al estilo Steamboy y sólo en determinadas escenas...vale, pero rollo Pixar...no por favor, no en Ghibli que es uno de los pocos estandartes que quedan de la animación tradicional.
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    ¿¿de dónde cojones hemos sacado que va a ser en 3D??
    Joder... es que no lo he leído en ningún sitio

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    anda que no tenia 3d mononoke, chihiro y howls...
    Firmar es de mediocres

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    anda que no tenia 3d mononoke, chihiro y howls...
    cuidado con esta afirmacion, una cosa es que tenga cosas generadas y movidad por un ordenador y otra muy distinta es que tenga cosas en 3D, vamos que nadie se piense que estas pelis son ser final fantasy, en mononoke por ejemplo hay ciertas cosas "generadas por ordenador" por ejemplo la escena en la que yakuru corre por una montaña (solo animado por ordenador el suelo, lo demas animacion tradicional) y otra que ahora recuerdo son unas ascuas que salen en la fundicion, lo demas de la peli es animacion tradicional como toda la vida, vamos que ninguno de los personajes estan en cgi ni nada por el estilo y supongo que lo mismo pasara con esta lei, es decir, que no creo que nisiquiera el dragon este en cgi, como mucho algun excenario.....

    enga salu2.

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    Entrevista a Toshio Suzuki, productor de Gedo Senki (aka Terramar):

    nterviewer: --Why do you make Gedo Senki now?
    Suzuki : Originally, the book which Mr.Miyazaki read enthusiastically. I read it too with his influence. Before making Nausicaa(1984), we continued thinking that we would like to film it. It is different from other adventure and fantasy which fight with the enemy with power and magic. It was shocking in me that he fight with himself. In the point that it draw the trouble of oneself, if there is no "Gedo Senki", probably there was no Star Wars series.

    interviewer: --At that time, did not you try making into a film?
    Suzuki : To tell the truth, we negotiated once. but, it did not go well. It seems that has offer from the various people. but, Le Guin did not do OK to any. If we were making "Gedo Senki" at that time, "Nausicaa" might not have been born. About three years ago, the message reached from Le Guin via Shimizu Masako who translated a Japanese version. It is said that Le Guin to see the work of Miyazaki, and she want him to make it into a film. Though it was heaven-sent for me. Miyazaki has worried.

    interviewer: --Why?
    Suzuki : His head was full of the production of Howl's moving Castle(2004). Time had passed since the time that he had wanted to make it. He had worry "Can I make it, now.". But, I wanted to make it in the time today. I had read by chance before I talked with Shimizu. I thought Vol.3 was fit in the time today. I thought that we able to draw sense of real that had become weak.

    interviewer: --sense for real?
    Suzuki : The opinion that agrees with the tax increase has increased when the public opinion poll is seen. I do not understand politics of asking the people privatization of postal services and the constitutional revision is extolled well. It is that the statesmen does because. after all, it strangle our neck. I think "common people" with the sense of real was gone. This is sure to be connected with what Goro expresses in the work, I am stopping it now.

    interviewer: --Why did you select Goro for the director?
    Suzuki : There is a problem of the future of Ghibli. Takahata Isao is 70 years old. Miyazaki Hayao will be 65 years old soon. Total of 135 years old every two people. if my age is added to this, it approaches 200 years old. If we goes this way, Ghibli ends. but, it is a company that started their movies wanting to be made. I also am obtaining the satisfaction. There are feelings thought to be "Already it isn't sufficient?" in my mind. There is still our responsibilities to a young person who belongs to the studio. However, Mr.miyazaki is a genius for the made movie, but he is not good at all in teaching. You understands at once if he is taken in the passenger's seat of the car and drives. Most people get neuroses because he cuts in everything.
    Kiki's Delivery Service and Howl's Moving Castle, first, had decided that another person was director. After all, Mr. Miyazaki has become a director. I have seen such a scene several times as for the movie making. Of course, Miyazaki doesn't mean any harm. But, there is a person who doesn't actually become a duodenal ulcer either. Then I've just thought of Goro. It might go well if he places it among them.

    interviewer: --But, he doesn't have the production experience of animation.
    Suzuki : I was not anxious about it. When he builds the Ghibli museum based on the image sketch of Mr.Miyazaki. He did not experience construction though he experienced landscape gardening. I think that everyone can draw the picture as long as they are possible to observe it neatly. When I was editing monthly "Animage", I had the editorial staffs editorial staffs who doesn't draw the picture usually draw their self-portrait for their editor's notes. At the first they said that it is impossible, and they began to observe their faces carefully, they were able to draw to the last minute perfectly. Moreover, there was power that they had drawn it hard. Mr.Goro often drawed someone's portrait at meeting. I thought that he who had the observation power was able to draw the picture.

    interviewer: --Did Mr.Goro have the interested for animation for a long time?
    Suzuki : I do not understand it. Working near own father would have been unpleasant usually, but he might have had the interest in the father's work something. When he undertook the work of the Ghibli museum, I felt it.

    interviewer: --Why did you choose Mr.Goro at the Ghibli museum?
    Suzuki : I had known him since he was the junior high school student. When meeting him after a long time in his grandfather's funeral, it was strangely impressive in me that when having met him after a long time in his grandfather's funeral, it was strangely impressive in me that he had talked to me, "I'm Goro". He clearly saw my eyes, and did not release the glance. I saw his face in my mind when we planned the museum. I said to Mr.Miyazaki, how about trying it with Mr.Goro? Then he said, "If Mr.Suzuki persuades him, and he accepts it. there is nothing i can do." And I requested it to him.

    interviewer: --How did Mr.Goro answer it?
    Suzuki : When he started working, there were two things that I'm so glad. One, He completed the Ghibli museum and he splendidly accomplished even management. Another, He did not accept with determined when there was a vague part in the image that Mr.Miyazaki drew. I thought this to be a very reliable. I saw his power to put his idea into practice. I thought that he was able to be likely to do the work of the movie possibly. When the plan of "Gedo Senki" was presented. I asked him, "You will be not indifferent in the future of Ghibli if you think about the future of Ghibli museum. Do not you participate in the project?" He answered at once, "It is related to the museum. and so,". To start up the project, we gathered in this room with Mr.Goro and the few people. It is October, 2003.

    interviewer: --At that time, he was not Director yet.
    Suzuki : Yes. Afterwards, when the content of the project had jelled to some extent, I spoke to Mr.Miyazaki so that we might start in the full scale preparation. "we wants to be related to the project with Mr.Goro as the adviser." Then, he strongly opposed it. Various opinions were in his participation when speaking to everyone in the studio. It was not long before, Who came whether to draw the picture? The problem who drew the picture came. We decided to drawing story boards in Mr.Goro going this way and that. While going this way and that, we decided to Mr.Goro draws story boards.

    interviewer: --How about the impression that you saw completed story boards?
    Suzuki : I think that this should introduce other people's words than me. Great animator, Mr.Ootsuka Yasuo praise highly and said "It is wonderful as the movie". And, He asked to me whether someone draws it. I said, "Mr.Goro drew." He was absolutely surprised, and said "Like father, like son." And, I showed it to Mr.Anno Hideaki. He marveled and said, "He did not do this earlier why.", when he learnt that the age of Mr.Goro was 38 years old. He said. "This is the Miyazaki Anime completely."

    interviewer: --How the reaction of Mr.Hayao was.
    Suzuki : He has not looked. He said, "You are crazy" for appointing Mr.Goro to the director. "It is impossible for him to become director. He cannot draw the picture. And, He has not understood at all.", he began to be angry. Then, first of all, I showed him the picture that the dragon and allene face for the poster that Mr.Goro had drawn. Then, he said nothing. Because the picture is a camera angle from the side that Mr.Miyazaki doesn't draw. One picture has such power. Then, I said him clearly, "We go ahead with this." He was struck dumb with surprise for a while.

    interviewer: --And, is it tentatively a settlement?
    Suzuki : No. We will go to place of Le Guin to get permission, saying that "We want to do by such a content", in June this year. I said, "Please draw one picture" because there was a day when the mood of Mr.Miyazaki was good. He drew the picture of Hort-town that becomes stage of movie for me. He regretted later, "I should not draw". lol. But, after all, it is Mr.Miyazaki to go to get permission.

    interviewer: --Is not Mr.Goro?
    Suzuki : We planned that first. Mr.Miyazaki proposed, "that is strange". "If the director has a time, even more pictures should be written. Going to get the permission of original author that is the work of producer." Then, I proposed him, "Then, let's go together you and me me". He shaken to unexpected development. But, I persuaded him, "Because you were her fan, will you be good?". lol.

    interviewer: --The appearance when meeting.
    Suzuki : We were concealing going of Mr.Miyazaki from Le Guin. We introduced Mr.Miyazaki to her, saying that "He is Miyazaki Goro". Then, she laughed, "He was a fairly aged person". I think that she understood since the time that she entered the room. We did not mention that at all. Luckily, we became calm.

    interviewer: --Did you go well the negotiation?
    Suzuki : there were a lot happening. Because, she hoped Miyazaki "Hayao" made it into a film. At the first, Mr.Miyazaki spoke the intensity to "Gedo Senki". "Please let me talk today. ", "I have not released either short time. I read this book many times when embarrassing and worrying. The all works that I have made has received the influences of "Gedo Senki", from "Nausicaa" to "Howl". If this is made into a film, no one might be excluding me in the world.

    interviewer: --How did it become?
    Suzuki : Immediately after that. He added, "However". "I think that it jumps at it if this proposal existed more than 20 years ago. But, I am already an elderly. My son and the staff were started to saying that wanted to do at such time. I think that it is also good if they draw out a new charm." And, he finished saying so. "I take all responsibilities for the script. When I read and it is useless, I have it stop at once."

    interviewer: --How the reaction of Le Guin was?
    Suzuki : She was calm. This is Japanese and American's differences. They are very rational. She said, "There is three questions".
    The first. I hear that you mainly make vol.3 into a film. Gedo that appears here has already grown old and is a middle age. It is suitable only for you of today.
    The second. You said that you took all responsibilities for the work that Goro made. What do you mean?
    The third. What meaning is to make it stop when it is useless? Did not you come to take the permission of making to the movie today?
    Mr.Miyazaki that heard it turned to me, he looked embarrassed. "Did I talk about something not good?"

    interviewer: --How did you answer?
    Suzuki : I answered him. She is asking whether you do the producer of this movie to your taking all responsibilities. Then, Mr.Miyazaki spoke loud suddenly in front of Le Guin. Do not joke. I am not good at arrange the name shameful to one movie by the parent and child. He is a frank person.

    interviewer: --The talk has become complicated.
    Suzuki : It is unknown for the American. lol. I thought how it became it. Her son's Teo took up the place and saying that "Let's eat for the time being". Teo came to Japan before the negotiated, and told with Mr.Goro and me. He became our ally. This is my selfish guess. They can able to have understood from the person who has great parents mutually each other.

    interviewer: --How did it become it after all?
    Suzuki : She had acknowledged it before the dinner.

    interviewer: --How about the situation afterwards?
    Suzuki : It is chaotic now. They are not talking at all. Mr.Miyazaki had made the short movie for the museum on the same floor until recently. Even if they heard a voice each other, they did not have any common ground. They abruptly avoided each other when seeming to pass each other in the room.

    interviewer: --What do you make the credit of Mr.Hayao?
    Suzuki : I am worried. We considered out of desperation a rarity name and a strange name. For example, Father : Hayao Miyazaki.lol.
    extraída de http://www.ghibliworld.com/news.html, y pasáis por ahí que hay un especial sobre el MUseo Ghibli en el 2005 y los proyectos de cortos y demàs :amor

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    Predeterminado Re: 'Terramar' lo nuevo de Ghibli

    Ghibli adaptando a K. LeGuin? Es como un sueño ésto

    Pero tengo serias dudas de que el "hijísimo" esté a la altura...
    Y espero que el tema 3D sea en cell-shading como ha estado haciendo Ghibli hasta ahora, como hagan algo tipo Pixar.... :cuchillo

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    Predeterminado Re: 'Terramar' lo nuevo de Ghibli

    Perdónnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, lo del 3D lo leí hace unos días sin darme que era 28 de Diciembre, siento haber armado tanto revuelo por una matedura de pata.

    Que conste que a mi el 3D me gusta (PIXAR al poder) , pero personalmente encuentro un mayor encanto a las pelis de animación tradicional, y sabiendo como es el espiritu de las producciones Ghibli, creo que estas se resentirían bastante ( siempre desde mi punto de vista, of course )

    Prometo fustigarme en plaza pública a corto plazo.

    :estupido :payaso :oops :village

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